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It always baffles me when people claim "Paki" is an ethnic slur when used for Pakistani citizens. Do you consider "Brit" for a British citizen to be an ethnic slur as well?
Despite that you’re getting downvoted, I’m rather curious about the connotation of these words myself.
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#182I’m in the UK. I can see this is going to mean a huge chunk of products disappearing from amazon here. A lot of stuff I order comes from Europe. So supply chain problems for months here we come! Fun times ahead. And no I didn’t vote for this shit show.
Not saying this isn't bad for the UK, but this is one of the very real consequences of opting out of the EU. But perhaps this might break some of the Amazon dominance and make way for other options - that would be a real benefit.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel you over-play the economic discussion, at least insofar as it was at the forefront. While economic "freedom" was pushed by the official campaign, however, you can't deny the widespread publicity of the Nazi-esque "Breaking Point" poster. Anecdotally, I saw people pushing to vote Brexit to stop "the scum of Eastern Europe" from coming here and taxi drivers who voted Brexit to "kick the P *s out" (ethnic slur fo…
It always baffles me when people claim "Paki" is an ethnic slur when used for Pakistani citizens. Do you consider "Brit" for a British citizen to be an ethnic slur as well?
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#184...brexiteers please remind me how this benefits the UK ?...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/18/eu-leaders-rec...
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As a European I hope UK will want to rejoin the EU. As a European living in the UK, no mate, you really don't want these folks to rejoin. Their class system is pathological and their mass-media are fundamentally corrupt. I say this against my best interests, but England in particular should never be allowed back in. They made their bed and they should lie in it.
I hear Italy is an enlightened political paradise with ample job creation and flawless social structures. No wonder you are so enlightened to make these entirely rational remarks Can you list what interaction you've had with the "class system" in the UK? Is the media in your home country any different? What about the media is "corrupt"?
As for media, UK tabloids are beyond the pale. Nowhere on the continent I’ve ever seen a situation where most of the population is bombarded every day by outright racism and hate. The British upper classes make a joke of it (the “daily heil” etc), because they think it doesn’t really affect them - which is only true until it isn’t, and eventually you get a “brexit moment” when chickens come home to roost. In Italy, newspapers can be partisan or influenced by industrial interests like anywhere else, but tabloid-like hate-speech can only be found in a well-defined small minority of titles. You don’t have a Murdoch-like figure - Berlusconi had his moment and was dealt with like any other political figure. The revolving door between journalism and politics is much worse in the UK, because most people employed in both fields come effectively from the same few classes. You have journalist wives writing excuses for their politician husbands, and nobody bats an eyelid. Somebody like Boris Johnson is free to write lies for decades until he gets where he wants to get.
UK tv is better, I’ll give you that, and the BBC is excellent at being the last bastion of decency in a depressing landscape.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hear Italy is an enlightened political paradise with ample job creation and flawless social structures. No wonder you are so enlightened to make these entirely rational remarks Can you list what interaction you've had with the "class system" in the UK? Is the media in your home country any different? What about the media is "corrupt"?
I have kids and live in an area where the class divisions are pretty stark. Italy has many problems, but at least they don’t enforce classism (and religious separation, which inevitably becomes ethnic division too) from primary-school age. As for media, UK tabloids are beyond the pale. Nowhere on the continent I’ve ever seen a situation where most of the population is bombarded every day by outright racism and hate.…
How do you mean? I was asking for an illustration of the "class system" that you find oppressing to your person.
> most of the population is bombarded every day by outright racism and hate.
Well that's not true is it.
> The British upper classes make a joke of it
What might be considered Victorian upper class constitutes practically no one. If you don't like the media don't consume it.
Honestly I do not understand this unhealthy fixation on class that you have and frankly reject your assertions regarding it. At a guess you are using it as a simplification to understand a landscape you can't fully understand without it.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have kids and live in an area where the class divisions are pretty stark. Italy has many problems, but at least they don’t enforce classism (and religious separation, which inevitably becomes ethnic division too) from primary-school age. As for media, UK tabloids are beyond the pale. Nowhere on the continent I’ve ever seen a situation where most of the population is bombarded every day by outright racism and hate.…
> I have kids and live in an area where the class divisions are pretty stark How do you mean? I was asking for an illustration of the "class system" that you find oppressing to your person. > most of the population is bombarded every day by outright racism and hate. Well that's not true is it. > The British upper classes make a joke of it What might be considered Victorian upper class constitutes practically no one.…
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have kids and live in an area where the class divisions are pretty stark How do you mean? I was asking for an illustration of the "class system" that you find oppressing to your person. > most of the population is bombarded every day by outright racism and hate. Well that's not true is it. > The British upper classes make a joke of it What might be considered Victorian upper class constitutes practically no one.…
Class is still a big thing in the UK: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/mar/25/too-poor-to-p...
A communal facility maintained and paid for by some people doesn't necessarily have to be made available to anyone else.
If your back garden was in sight of someone living in social housing ought they be able to make use of your property?
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#189This is an example why exiting global cooperation such as the European Union is bad for the economy. Another side effect may be that For example the real estate market in London goes lower due to less foreign professionals competing for housing. Plus the price of vegetable at the supermarket will be higher due to more expensive imports from Holland the gardeners of Europe and Spanish fruits being more expensive. Ther…
You do realise that currently any company operating in a EU members country can have their HQ in any EU members country and with that, game the TAX system. So many companies operate in EU member countries, paying very little tax as they can just pay tax in another EU member country and that may well be a lower rate. For example Ireland and Luxembourg have done well in gaming the whole corporation TAX system at the expense of taxes being paid fairly in other member countries.
Then whilst some countries have a good minimum wage, you can get around that by employing somebody on a contract in another EU members country and dealt with many good workers, working in the UK under contracts in another EU members country and by that, paid less than minimum wage.
So that will be good for tax income in the UK and also fairer and something the EU has needed to address for years and failing badly as the case against Apple shows - who consolidate the bulk of all their taxes into one single member state.
>As a European I hope UK will want to rejoin the EU.
I'd look at the UK voting record, the UK veto has been instrumental in blocking so many plans by the EU. If you had an employee who was 50% a good employee and the other 50%, disruptive and effecting all the other employee's - would you want to keep them on?
Thing is, the EU needed reform and been the case for near on a decade or more and even they know that. The UK (Cameron) went to the EU to do reforms, they said no and the UK had a vote. After the vote, many EU figureheads publicly said that the EU needed reform and Macron been championing that as it is needed.
However, in all that time the UK had the vote (many years ago now), has the EU gone - ok we are doing reform - this is the plan and we want to do this and that. HAD that happened, the UK would of had something to take back to the people and go - look, we voted to leave the EU - we ain't left yet, however they are changing and with that it is only fair we put this back to the people as things have changed. THAT would of seen the UK stay in the EU. But no, that didn't happen and case of the EU going we need reform, twiddle thumbs for years and years, and all that's been decided is that Macron will drive it once and only once the UK has left the EU.
I like the EU, I like the UK and honestly it is best for both of them to have a break as best for both overall. Certainly motivated the EU to do some reform and if they don't, the divided in many EU member's is at the stage that without a sit down and addressing the issues thru reform, the EU will just erode away.
Also the whole price/inflation - you do realise that many imports into the UK from the EU are products imported into the EU from outside - like china. So would often see products shipped to central Europe and warehoused and distributed from there. After all, they only need to pay import tax and duty in one member country. Once done they can go to any EU members state. So for some countries, that worked well and others, less so.
So will be a case of for example the HD I brought from Amazon the other week, which shipped from the deepest of France and took a week. Would ship from the UK as the manufacturer would have stocks locally now. Maybe it will be a little cheaper, though that would also cover extra warehouse space/staff in the UK to handle that instead of some warehouse in the EU that is not paying UK tax, land/building rent/taxes.... Now instead of a ship dropping of in the EU down in say Italy, it will be direct to the UK. That avoids lots of lorries/planes and the like shipping stuff from the EU to the UK. So the whole environmental aspect has many opportunities to be better than current. Don't overlook that.
Many things not thought out in the news or media when it comes to brexit - mostly it is all rhetoric and ignores the pro's as well as the con's and those pro's are with the uk and the eu in many ways. The EU for a start been able to get financial control rules move forward after decades of the UK roadblocking them.
But best way to put things about the UK leaving the EU, if you truly love somebody and they are better of without you then you have to let them go.
Now, twenty years from now, things will be worth reviewing though the UK and the EU will be far different places then and not all for the worst.
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#190I’m in the UK. I can see this is going to mean a huge chunk of products disappearing from amazon here. A lot of stuff I order comes from Europe. So supply chain problems for months here we come! Fun times ahead. And no I didn’t vote for this shit show.
Also many things I buy seem to buy from Amazon ship direct from China!
But fun times ahead, just remember to laugh ;).