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UFO VPN claims zero-logs policy, leaks 20M user logs [resolved]

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merlinscholz wrote: post #220
allarm wrote: post #189

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Which name is better in your opinion? PIA? Nord? Express? All their web sites look alike as well.

IMO, this https://www.privacytools.io/providers/vpn/ is currently one of the best sources on deciding for a VPN provider. Or you could host your own on a cheap VPS. But, there are few reasons to actually use a VPN nowadays, there was a discussion on HN a few days back, but I cannot seem to find it at the moment. Edit: Found it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23566390

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Post by neurostimulant »

On a reddit thread about this news, they mentioned that the company behind ufo vpn (dreamfii hk limited) is actually owned by lippo limited, which is owned by lippo group. I can't find any information on the web that back this though. But if this is true, this kind of shenanigans (saying they don't keep log but actually keep them anyway, then leaks it due to sheer incompetence) is not surprising considering lippo group's well known history of corporate malpractice and screwing up their customers and partners alike. How companies this shrewd (so shady and well known they became a meme) continue to survives (and thrives!) is beyond me. Maybe there is money in screwing people after all.

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Post by hkt »

jakear wrote: post #213
hkt wrote: post #183

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Most Tor nodes are actually in Germany. You can see a map of them https://tormap.void.gr/ The design of the system is resilient to some nodes being under hostile control, too.

Well then aren’t I glad the US intelligence agencies don’t have a history of collaborating across national boundaries! Some nodes can be under hostile control, but as the number increases the likelihood increases that they can link entry to exit based on timings. I consider it quite likely that the us govt can say “hey Germany/UK/Fance/etc., we have this batch of exit times, do any of your nodes correspond on entry?”…

If your threat model is that the whole world is out to get you and will stop at nothing to find you, it is very much the case that you are going to lose. Tor raises the cost of surveillance, but is not magic.

As an aside, the five eyes countries collaborate much more closely with one another than they do with France or Germany (or that was the case when I read about this after the Snowden leaks.)

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Post by throwawayway9 »

lihan wrote: post #55
grensley wrote: post #11

I wouldn't trust any VPN under China's sphere of influence.

No one should trust any open internet in the US. Already forgot Edward Snowden?

Many people I talk to IRL don't trust any US systems at all. It's a sad state of affairs when one can trust Chinese systems over western. Especially after Snowden. God bless him.

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Post by llsf »

viraptor wrote: post #136
llsf wrote: post #133

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Weird... I did the test, and clearly I cannot watch shows on European TV website, and when I select one of my European server, then I can watch the shows. Something must be off with your setting.

It depends on the service. Not everyone does it, but many services ban the Amazon, Azure, Google, DO, and many other AS sources simply because they won't originate "normal user" traffic.

Correct, I just checked Netflix, and it is still the US Netflix, even when I hopped from a Paris AWS server. But all french TV website are working like if I was in France.

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Post by coronadisaster »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #215
coronadisaster wrote: post #199

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No, I dont expect the camera to stay ON (even for a video call) if I lock the phone.

Do you expect the call to continue, or to drop, when you lock the phone mid-call?

They should definitely have to ask the permission to be able to run the microphone or camera in the background, specially in Firefox (as opposed to native apps).

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Post by fishywang »

rmrfrmrf wrote: post #219
fishywang wrote: post #67

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it's 2020. if you're still relying on vpn connection to provide encryption, you are doing it wrong. (I understand there are certain cases you have to deal with unencrypted traffic, but those should be really rare now).

you don't have any control of what protocols your apps use and if they're encrypted or not

If you are talking about apps, recent versions of Android and iOS both deny apps to use unencrypted connections, with only a few exceptions (like browsers)

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Post by Mandatum »

throwwwaway wrote: post #198
movedx wrote: post #195

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But it still builds trust in the brand. No one is safe from a state actor.

Trying to gain trust against something you have no control over is the very definition of security theatre.

That's really fair, and I think you have a good point. Perhaps operating in a publicly visible place - think floor-to-ceiling windows at that particular server rack.
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