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Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by whoseonthat » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:42 PM UTC

jorblumesea wrote: post #9

Ironically, giving ideological ammo to the protestors that the system is rotten to the core and needs to be completely replaced. Unmarked rented vehicles kidnapping protestors that lead to interrogations in a secret offsite location sounds a lot like the Stasi or Nazi germany. No one should be ok with this, ever. Where are the "second amendments against tyranny folks"? Oh, they probably support the police. Nice to se…

Is the sentiment that the system is working or at least improving in the right ways?

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by dontcarethrow2 » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:45 PM UTC

alright, so who pays when the lawsuit goes through? Taxes? How do we get it from the guilty department's budget?

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by pravus » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:45 PM UTC

jorblumesea wrote: post #9

Ironically, giving ideological ammo to the protestors that the system is rotten to the core and needs to be completely replaced. Unmarked rented vehicles kidnapping protestors that lead to interrogations in a secret offsite location sounds a lot like the Stasi or Nazi germany. No one should be ok with this, ever. Where are the "second amendments against tyranny folks"? Oh, they probably support the police. Nice to se…

We were told to shut up and put away our guns because these things could never happen...

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:46 PM UTC

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Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by mindslight » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:46 PM UTC

We're at the point where the larger Republican establishment either needs to repudiate and remove this anti-American wannabe dictator, or they're going to find themselves at the guillotine alongside him. Our society cannot take another 6 months of economic destruction, brazen totalitarianism, and weaponized ignorance.

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by thegreyone » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:47 PM UTC

"Journalists"? You mean that antifa lawyer group? Eff them, eff antifa, and I hope they all get what's justifiably coming to em.

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by Google234 » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:47 PM UTC

Maybe these Portlanders should stop trying to burn down the federal courthouse.

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:48 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #2

This article echoes another recent article[1], which has more details. [1] - https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7w4w8/trump-sent-the-fed...

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Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by op03 » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:48 PM UTC

gguevaraa wrote: post #4

Any lawyers or people familiar with law want to chime in on how this will turn out?

It will turn out the way everything else turns out in the age of fruit fly attention spans and everyone trapped in arms races for that attention - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen%27s_race

Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence

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Post by jorblumesea » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:49 PM UTC

pravus wrote: post #13

jorblumesea wrote: post #9

Ironically, giving ideological ammo to the protestors that the system is rotten to the core and needs to be completely replaced. Unmarked rented vehicles kidnapping protestors that lead to interrogations in a secret offsite location sounds a lot like the Stasi or Nazi germany. No one should be ok with this, ever. Where are the "second amendments against tyranny folks"? Oh, they probably support the police. Nice to se…

We were told to shut up and put away our guns because these things could never happen...

Well if you don't use it to defend democratic values then I'd say you don't deserve those guns. The 2nd amendment was literally a hedge against these situations but many of those strong believers in the second amendment are conspicuously absent and probably side with the right wing fascist elements. Unfortunately many if not most gun owners seem to be entirely ok with eroding American democratic values and freedom so long as the other side "gets what's coming to them".