Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence
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Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence
#2This article echoes another recent article[1], which has more details.
[1] - https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7w4w8/trump-sent-the-fed...
Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence
#3Not sure why they are saying the detentions are conducted "secretly".
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#4Any lawyers or people familiar with law want to chime in on how this will turn out?
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#5Not sure why they are saying the detentions are conducted "secretly".
Nobody identifies themselves. Who are they?
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#6Not sure why they are saying the detentions are conducted "secretly".
mabye the reason (or the ratinale?) for the detention is the secret?
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#7Not sure why they are saying the detentions are conducted "secretly".
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Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence
#8I'm sure this thread will be filled with people condemning the actions of the government/officers just like they do when anyone in China sneezes and not defending this blatant anti-democratic action that flies in the face of our "American values".
Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence
#9Ironically, giving ideological ammo to the protestors that the system is rotten to the core and needs to be completely replaced. Unmarked rented vehicles kidnapping protestors that lead to interrogations in a secret offsite location sounds a lot like the Stasi or Nazi germany. No one should be ok with this, ever.
Where are the "second amendments against tyranny folks"? Oh, they probably support the police. Nice to see that when democracy is under attack, it's fine if they're just attacking the other side.
An alternate sources:
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-accused-deploying-secret-poli...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53453077
Seems like it's largely to shore up Trump's flagging poll numbers as the hope is that it plays well on Fox News. Feels like a fascist Nixonian "law and order" political calculation but like most Trumpian endeavors it will probably backfire.
edit: Let's put this another way. If these were the anti-mask protestors or the anti-lockdown protestors how do you think this would go down? Do you think elements on the right would be okay with this? My feeling is that it would be a shit storm. But because it's happening to "left wing thugs", "looters" and "antifa" it's ok right? Whether you believe these people have committed crimes or not, having secret police round them up is completely unamerican. If they committed crimes, serve up formal arrest warrants, give them their Miranda rights and their day in front of a judge with lawyer representation.
Democratic values and human rights only exist for those who political positions we agree with, right? I forgot there was a clause in the constitution that allowed you to just skip articles because it happened to people you don't like /s
Re: Oregon, Journalists Sue U.S. over Portland Arrests, Violence
#10Not sure why they are saying the detentions are conducted "secretly".
Because they're being conducted by unidentified agents of the state and there isn't a thorough public record of it. The idiom refers to state records, not to public knowledge or visibility.