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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by mindslight »

mikro2nd wrote: post #518
mindslight wrote: post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Before youtube we just sent each other video files directly, posted them on our own websites, or found them with p2p software, all of which worked fine. Web services are traps promising ease of use, while actually aiming for lock in based on network effects. That so many people think the centralized third party hosting and bundled viewing software are critical to the general functionality just goes to show how i…

So much of what you write is true, yet ignores a vital value that the centralised websites do provide: discoverability. Not only does YouTube provide (sub-mediocre) search over all the [mb]illions of videos it hosts, it also is a hub: if I'm looking for a particular video/clip ("Leyla's Beans Advert from Futurama") the hub is the first place I'm going to search. These are really hard problems in usability that we nee…

For sure, and discoverability/aggregation is critical if Free solutions are to gain mindshare while competing with proprietary ones. I was just responding to what would replace Youtube if it went away due to lack of surveillance revenue, pointing out that we've had workable video sharing long before Youtube.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by swyx »

thefiregecko wrote: post #223
swyx wrote: post #219

noob question here - i dont know what F-droid is. Is this meant to be installed from the Play Store or do i have to "jailbreak" my android?

F-droid is an alternative app store consisting of open source projects. No need for jailbreaking, more information here https://f-droid.org/

cool, thank you very much.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by swyx »

j1elo wrote: post #237
swyx wrote: post #219

noob question here - i dont know what F-droid is. Is this meant to be installed from the Play Store or do i have to "jailbreak" my android?

F-droid is an alternative App Store, dedicated to open source software. You have to enable installing apps from "unknown sources" (an option available in the Android menus, no root required), then install the Fdroid application, and from now on you can revert back the "unknown sources" setting, and use Fdroid to search and install FOSS apps, including NewPipe.

thanks for the very kind explanation.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by rex_lupi »

ss3000 wrote: post #468
drewg123 wrote: post #18

This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…

> This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. Isn't it funny how one man's feature is another man's bug? Not supporting logging in with a Google account to keep subscriptions and history synchronized across devices is exactly what disqualifies it from consideration for me, and I suspect I'm not alone here. For those like me there's Y…

vanced is just the normal youtube app with just some modifications to block ads and background playback. It is closed sourced, not to mention, and uses a modified version of MicroG that works in unknown ways to access/sync with the google account, which is very different to the original MicroG (which has been developed to replace Google Services from your phone to minimize google tracking your activities.) . If you don't want unknown apps get access to your google account or if you care about your privacy/security, don't use Vanced, stick with NewPipe.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by JulianWasTaken »

jiggunjer wrote: post #491
JulianWasTaken wrote: post #154

NewPipe is fantastic, but worth mentioning since I don't see it so far, that the one killer downside is "no support for Chromecasting/DLNA" [1] [2], which means I continue to keep the official YouTube app around for occasional use when I want a bigger screen. [1]: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/105 [2]: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/668

But chromecast lets you mirror your screen. Why not do that?

Screen mirroring nearly completely defeats the purpose of a chromecast to me.

It has way poorer framerate, requires streaming to two places instead of one (from source to phone and then phone to cast device), requires the phone to stay awake thereby needing more power and wasting the phone display which I'll not look at, has a way worse interface for whatever app you're looking at, because what you see is a scaled up phone interface instead of one more suitable for a larger screen, ...

I essentially never use it when I can avoid it, and even when I need mirroring if I have a cable I'll use that instead.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by anoncake »

themacguffinman wrote: post #500
anoncake wrote: post #497

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Bad analogy. Google doesn't charge so there is no bill to accept.

The bill is the ads which they enforce to the best of their ability, the analogy doesn't have to be literal. Google also offers a literal charge, in the form of YouTube Premium.

You can pretend that's the case, I won't. The only rights a company has towards its customers are to provide its services, charge money, and shut up otherwise. Demanding its customers to harm themselves is none of these things.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by anoncake »

dingaling wrote: post #502
anoncake wrote: post #498

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By paying for premium you support a company whose business model is based on selling emotional manipulation (i.e. ads). You support a company that violates your right to use the software of your choice on your personal property. And you give in to extortion by paying for not being exposed to emotional manipulation. Paying for premium is the unethical option here.

> By paying for premium you support a company whose business model is based on selling emotional manipulation The corollary of that is that any interaction with such a company is unethical, since it encourages them to continue the manipulation on people who may not be as aware or resistant. I therefore assume you've routed YouTube.com to :: ?

Using its bandwidth without paying it doesn't encourage a for-profit company.
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