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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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NewPipe is fantastic, but worth mentioning since I don't see it so far, that the one killer downside is "no support for Chromecasting/DLNA" [1] [2], which means I continue to keep the official YouTube app around for occasional use when I want a bigger screen. [1]: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/105 [2]: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/668

But chromecast lets you mirror your screen. Why not do that?

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#492
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Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO. It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.

On the other hand, leveraging the network effect to form a monopoly which compromises privacy and user security by coordinating with state aggressors around the globe...probably more unethical than controlling the software running on your own device?

Wow two logical falacies in one sentence.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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It doesn't remove ads, it just doesn't play them. Why do you expect the developer spend effort on funneling money to Google while degrading the viewing experience?

Because they’re the ones hosting and serving the video?

No one forces them to do that. They're free to charge for their services.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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What can Google's app do what NewPipe can't?

support the creators

You mean "expose the user to emotional manipulation through ads. That is not a feature, unless it's opt-in. A donation button or something like that would be.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I hope the developers are here. I'm so grateful for this app and especially the support : Everytime YouTube obfuscates their API to take them down, they quickly publish an updated app that works. please donate : https://newpipe.schabi.org/donate/

I hope you realize that apps like these kill the ecosystem for content creators who are paid based on ads. If you don't like YT ads, pay for the premium version. But suggesting that this app is great is not right. Anyways, I trust if this becomes big, YT will kill them anyways. YT API requires keys and they know exactly what is going on here and can shut it down in a heartbeat if they want to. This is exactly what ha…

> I hope you realize that apps like these kill the ecosystem [...] based on ads.

That's a good thing.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Piggybacking on my own comment, I'd love to hear if anyone has ideas on how to block Ads on a Chromecast...

YouTube Premium? Paying for YouTube is the best decision I've ever made when it comes to how much time and frustration I've saved per dollar.

Unfortunately, YouTube premium is not available in all countries, so some of us have have to go for more "hacky" solutions if we want to avoid ads.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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The convincing justification is only one part of the argument. The other part is about freedom to challenge contemporary adtech and digital business models.. ie. Compute on my terms. Content creators and YouTubers are welcome to not serve me their content if I don't accept their trackers. It's not only about affording a modern smartphone: all these digital behemoths rely on us keeping up to date to their tech standar…

Sometimes I think of the freedom to challenge contemporary restaurant business models too.. you know, food on my terms . Restaurants are welcome not to serve me their food if I don't accept their bill, but I won't tell them upfront just like you. Let's not pretend this is about high-minded freedom; like everyone else in a free market, you're free to not consume the fruits of labor from content creators and YouTube. A…

Bad analogy. Google doesn't charge so there is no bill to accept.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I used to be in your camp but after Google had only showed a number of us irrelevant ads for years after years I decided it didn't matter: I don't want to date hot Russian/Taiwanese/Ukrainian/Thai women, I'm not interested in dating elderly women near me - and I'm not interested in dating guys either. Nothing against any of those persons, but I'm happily married after all so even the idea of browsing those sites is c…

Google not displaying relevant ads do NOT in any way make it less wrong. In your case, there are 2 'ethical' options: use premium or avoid the service. Btw I also use adblock so I am a part of the problem.

By paying for premium you support a company whose business model is based on selling emotional manipulation (i.e. ads). You support a company that violates your right to use the software of your choice on your personal property. And you give in to extortion by paying for not being exposed to emotional manipulation. Paying for premium is the unethical option here.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Piggybacking on my own comment, I'd love to hear if anyone has ideas on how to block Ads on a Chromecast...

You might want to consider setting up a Pi-Hole. Not sure how well those work with chromecasts though.

Pi hole cannot block ads inside of YouTube app, only on the web. I suppose that will be similar with Chromecast.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Sometimes I think of the freedom to challenge contemporary restaurant business models too.. you know, food on my terms . Restaurants are welcome not to serve me their food if I don't accept their bill, but I won't tell them upfront just like you. Let's not pretend this is about high-minded freedom; like everyone else in a free market, you're free to not consume the fruits of labor from content creators and YouTube. A…

Bad analogy. Google doesn't charge so there is no bill to accept.

The bill is the ads which they enforce to the best of their ability, the analogy doesn't have to be literal. Google also offers a literal charge, in the form of YouTube Premium.
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