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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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YouTube is one of the worst Android apps in regards of usability, accidental clicks, and anoying ads. It would be great if there was a way installing the app without allowing third party sources. Haven't developed on Android since years. Does anyone know if I can build it and upload it via ADB without enabling apps from 3rd party sources.

The ads in youtube this past year have been a bit scary. I'm assuming some weird ads are getting past the moderators because I'm in Sweden, and it's not a big ad market maybe. Either way, I get misspelled ads, or ads that just say "18 YEAR OLD WOMEN" in some shitty 1999 font that is barely legible. Edit: I'm talking about the clickable ads interspersed between videos in the UI.

An ad for "18 YEAR OLD WOMEN" is scary? They don't bite.

It seems generic not really weird.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I hope the developers are here. I'm so grateful for this app and especially the support : Everytime YouTube obfuscates their API to take them down, they quickly publish an updated app that works. please donate : https://newpipe.schabi.org/donate/

I hope you realize that apps like these kill the ecosystem for content creators who are paid based on ads. If you don't like YT ads, pay for the premium version. But suggesting that this app is great is not right. Anyways, I trust if this becomes big, YT will kill them anyways.

YT API requires keys and they know exactly what is going on here and can shut it down in a heartbeat if they want to. This is exactly what happened to apps built on top of Twitter APIs back in the day.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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YouTube is one of the worst Android apps in regards of usability, accidental clicks, and anoying ads. It would be great if there was a way installing the app without allowing third party sources. Haven't developed on Android since years. Does anyone know if I can build it and upload it via ADB without enabling apps from 3rd party sources.

As a YouTube Premium user it's a lot less annoying, but what's frustrating for me is it not being simple to go back to a video after accidentally exiting it (where in a browser you would just go back to that tab, or press back or whatever). Also the application crashes all the time, especially when switching to play in the background (locking the screen, switching apps, etc.); and as of Android 10 on my device it int…

Your history is in the Library. Its the bottom right-most tab.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#265

YouTube is one of the worst Android apps in regards of usability, accidental clicks, and anoying ads. It would be great if there was a way installing the app without allowing third party sources. Haven't developed on Android since years. Does anyone know if I can build it and upload it via ADB without enabling apps from 3rd party sources.

Sure. Download the APK from the F-Droid website [1] and install it with adb install. If you want to build it yourself, you can build it like any regular Android app with gradle, or by following the F-Droid recipe [2] (edit: which does not provide much useful information in the case of NewPipe, but it can be a great source of information for apps that are more difficult to build, especially if you want to remove the proprietary bits / tracking parts).

You won't get automatic updates, though. I encourage you to install F-Droid (that you can also install using adb install), and enable third party sources just for F-Droid (which is possible on the latest versions of Android). Or, if your bootloader is unlocked, flash the f-droid zip package and then you don't even need to enable third party apps and F-Droid will be even more enjoyable to use.

[1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

[2] https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/tree/master/metadata/or...

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO. It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.

I used to be in your camp but after Google had only showed a number of us irrelevant ads for years after years I decided it didn't matter: I don't want to date hot Russian/Taiwanese/Ukrainian/Thai women, I'm not interested in dating elderly women near me - and I'm not interested in dating guys either. Nothing against any of those persons, but I'm happily married after all so even the idea of browsing those sites is c…

Google not displaying relevant ads do NOT in any way make it less wrong. In your case, there are 2 'ethical' options: use premium or avoid the service. Btw I also use adblock so I am a part of the problem.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO. It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.

On the other hand, blocking absolutely adequate YouTube accounts (engineering, education, history) without explanation and appeal process is super unethical. Creating monopoly (which definition YouTube perfectly fits) is not only unethical, but against the law, as well as constant user's privacy violations.

There is starting to be competition to the YT monopoly. You may want to consider subscribing to Curiosity Stream and Nebula:

https://curiositystream.com/legaleagle/

Some content creators on YT (such as Legal Eagle, etc.) are also now on Nebula. $15 USD per year right now. Apparently they don't have to worry so much about de-monetization, however that works.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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s/anti-featured away/decided to charge for

On Firefox for Android for example, the vast majority of video playing sites automatically continue to play in the background. YouTube should, but it has code specifically to check for Firefox tabs being backgrounded and pause the player. So it's going out of its way to disable a feature of the browser. Happily this can be reversed with an extension, but yes, it is an intentional anti-feature. Whether you agree with…

Fwiw, the relatively few creators who are talking about it publicly tend to agree that cpm is (much) higher for premium users than users monetized through ads. So if you want creators to get more money, paying for premium is better than watching ads.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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This is why, despite all its shortcomings, Android still is a more open platform compared to iOS. Big thanks to F-Droid and the open source Android community.

Would it be forbidden by Apple to publish a similar app for iOS?

Even in a world where Apple does not prevent YouTube alternative clients in its app store, it would probably prevent alternative clients for its own services.

Or, an app that would go as far as doing such deviant things as providing its own custom web engine and allow an iPad 2 to remain relevant and useful in 2020.

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