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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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#252This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…
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#253I'm completely against Google usage of personal informations and hate annoying and bad ux on official YouTube app but, to be honest, ads support creators with revenue so when you "avoid ads", you are harming creators too, not only Google. I think that if you don't like YT app and advertising, you simply shouldn't use YouTube.
This argument is as old as time, and the counterpoint is simply "it's revenue they were not getting regardless". Those of us who don't want to see ads ever, for any reason aren't stealing or harming anyone, we simply don't want to see ads -- saying "well don't use the service" is not all of a sudden getting the creators back any revenue, and no, if there's interesting stuff on YouTube, I'm going to use it, and do so…
While I support the sentiment, you know that's not how all advertising works? CPM ads mean the publisher makes money because you saw the ad, regardless of whether you clicked on it (CPC).
Even if you never click an ad or buy anything from an ad, you are still helping the publisher make money.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#254I'm completely against Google usage of personal informations and hate annoying and bad ux on official YouTube app but, to be honest, ads support creators with revenue so when you "avoid ads", you are harming creators too, not only Google. I think that if you don't like YT app and advertising, you simply shouldn't use YouTube.
Everyone I follow on YouTube that is trying to make any money there uses some other form of revenue. Mostly embedded ads, affiliate links, sponsorships, and merchandise. These work regardless of whether you watch Google's ads.
...in addition to YouTube ad monetization. You know how important YouTube ads and prime are because of how much those same creators scream when they get demonitized.
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I agree. I wish it could cast to my TV but otherwise it's great.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would it be forbidden by Apple to publish a similar app for iOS?
I had another comment refuting the GP (as you are), but the more I thought about it, I decided to delete the comment. At the end of the day, you have to pay $99/year to publish on the Apple App Store, and on Android, although Google has had some shady practices around automatically flagging/removing apps from it's store, you have more options in terms of app distribution, such as F-Droid. To my (now deleted) comment'…
Not just the money & the need to obtain another protform for app development (MacOS) but also the te inability to public GPL apps on app store (if you manage to get that far):
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store...
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#257Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.
Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO. It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
Feel free to not use YouTube. If you do use it, please don't violate the TOS, because it increases the chances you'll screw it up for everyone else (me). People who violate TOS are why we can't have nice things.
Nah, I'll use it as I please. Your sensibilities are your own, and not mine.
I'm not worried about your sensibilities. I'm worried that your actions may indirectly cause harm to me.
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#259There are people whose living is made from YouTube and it’s advertising component.
Whilst I would personally prefer videos with no ads, is this not stealing?
I would be very interested to hear this groups view on why this is morally ok. Also what alternatives there should be to an ad revenue model for YouTube type sites.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
not to mention the "play in background" functionality that google anti-featured away.
s/anti-featured away/decided to charge for
On Firefox for Android for example, the vast majority of video playing sites automatically continue to play in the background. YouTube should, but it has code specifically to check for Firefox tabs being backgrounded and pause the player. So it's going out of its way to disable a feature of the browser. Happily this can be reversed with an extension, but yes, it is an intentional anti-feature. Whether you agree with that business practice is your own judgement.
Personally I think the real value add of Youtube Premium is the ability to offline videos in the official app; that's not something the browser can normally do. Well, and the secondary effect of contributing somewhat to creators, even if the payout isn't significant through that channel. It's nice for it to be automatic and not require an explicit subscription.