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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by jedimastert »

2bitencryption wrote: post #104

something I've always wondered: why hasn't anyone built a fully-featured desktop Youtube front-end experience? With, like, borderless floating video (a la Firefox's floating video feature), dimming the desktop, a search experience that doesn't bombard you with clickbait garbage, etc? it seems like Youtube.com is really just a fancy mp4 player, targeting static video content. does Youtube actively do anything to preve…

> With, like, borderless floating video (a la Firefox's floating video feature)

If your referring to Picture in Picture, it was implemented for Chrome via an official extension

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/picture-in-picture...

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

VikingCoder wrote: post #92
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counterpoint: the amount of advertisements needed to sustain video production ultimately hinders the value of the video. If I'm watching an hour long video about X, and I have to watch 40 mid-roll ads, I'm way more likely to turn it off. I'd much rather directly support creators via Patreon, and Adblock everything else.

Should it be your choice or the creator's choice how you support them?

That's a good question, ideally the creator should provide as many options for support as they can, in order to capture as much revenue for their work. It's then on the consumer to decide which they're most comfortable with, whether it's advertisement, or direct support, etc.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by jimlikeslimes »

anoncake wrote: post #114
drbacon wrote: post #42

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Um. Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. >(and you can choose whether to download them as audio files) Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone.

What can Google's app do what NewPipe can't?

Download a playlist to listen offline without having to download each song individually/manually :)

Edit: I'm a very, very happy new pipe user, this is literally the one feature I'm waiting for. And there is a GitHub issue being worked on for it.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by ibdf »

Youtube might be the only place I actually don't mind ads. Some creators on youtube are extremely good at providing valuable content in short form - I use it primarily as a learning platform, whether I am doing wood work, learning how to fix something at home, or learning about a new topic. I would rather continue to support these creators by watching ads on their own channel than paying for a subscription that covers everything.

It's an invaluable resource and until there's something better taking the ads away takes part of their income away.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by kbenson »

bsdubernerd wrote: post #90
kbenson wrote: post #75

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> I'd never pay a dime for YT itself due to their policies and overall platform. You're supporting them just by using them, whether they are showing you ads or tracking you or not. You're reducing demand on other platforms for this content because you're letting YouTube provide it for you. If you really want to stand against YouTube, don't use it. Otherwise, you're still supporting their platform, you've just decided…

You're absolutely right of course. But it's still a chicken-and-egg problem. YT is frequently the only platform where content creators publish because of network effects. I guess it's too easy for me to continue using YT for discovery.

Yep, and it's those network effects which are strengthened through using YouTube even if they aren't making revenue from ads through you.

It's similar to disliking Walmart and Amazon but still using them because they are cheap, convenient, a known factor, etc, which many do (including me, in the case of Amazon). The first step is acknowledging the trade-off you're making and being aware of it. At least then people are making a conscious choice, so if they want to re-evaluate at some point, they can do so with better facts.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by jron »

unixhero wrote: post #99

Will check it out. The last 3 years I've been very happy with "YouTube Vanced", in particular because of: background play, native adblocking, fully native logged in experience if desired, AND it switches to audio only encode if background play is enabled so it saves data. Get it here: https://vanced.app/

NewPipe also has background play that only uses the audio feed. I thought I would miss the logged in experience but if you take a few minutes to subscribe through the app, the UX is actually better or at least on par with the native youtube app.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by II2II »

kbenson wrote: post #82
II2II wrote: post #68

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As entitled as it may be, I will assert my right to limit the data I send to Google. It is a mistake to assume that everyone blocks ads because they do not want to watch ads. In my case, it is playing a game of damage control with a major corporation that has the ability to connect my activities across much of the web. Other people legitimately point to the cost of bandwidth. I am sure that other reasons exist. It is…

> It is also to the benefit if creators if they diversify their revenue streams. Watching content on YouTube while blocking ads does not encourage creators to go to other platforms. You've already consumed their product, thus lessening demand, so there's less reason to put it on another platform. It's not likely you'll go watch it on Vimeo after they upload it there when you've already seen it on YouTube. Creators ma…

> Describing your actions as "benefitting" them by helping them see this by depriving them of revenue from you for their content is a slightly odd take though.

The claim was that creators would benefit from diversifying, not that my actions were benefiting them. I was quite clear that my motivations were related to Google.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by minhazm »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #116
izacus wrote: post #51

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YouTube Premium will not show any Ads. You just need to pay for the service you're receiving. Since when is that an unreasonable ask?

YouTube makes a profit, after all operational costs are accounted for, they aren't paying creators what they're owed. Why would I support a company who regularly short changes the creators who work hard to produce quality content?

I don't think it's clear that YouTube actually makes a profit.
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