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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by izacus »

zeta0134 wrote: post #36
sniperjzp wrote: post #17

Watching youtube videos using Google's bandwidth, without watching any ads or paying for sub, I don't see how this could be legit in the long term.

To be fair, I do pay for subscriptions for a few YouTubers. Wintergatan in particular is excellent. Of course, many creatives are using Patreon and other external revenue sources and frankly that's wise, given YouTube's track record with unusual copyright strikes and other platform nonsense. Even if I were to pay for Youtube Red, this application has a feature that I cannot get with the official app: a lack of depend…

Those "bunch of extra features" are paid features for the service though. For which you're not paying.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by drbacon »

noarchy wrote: post #9

This remains a killer app for me on Android. I don't know if anything equivalent exists on iOS, to enable background playing and video downloads (and you can choose whether to download them as audio files).

Um. Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription.

>(and you can choose whether to download them as audio files)

Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by sjroot »

jedimastert wrote: post #35
sjroot wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most likely. I understand the appeal of these types of applications but it really just comes off as entitled IMO. Just watch the ads to support the content creators you care about - it isn’t that hard. I imagine this will be an unpopular opinion here though.

That's why I'm on YouTube Premium. I definitely watch enough youtube to get $10 out of it.

I think most people get enough benefit out of YouTube to warrant the fee. But advertisements allow the platform to be available to anyone with an internet connection. Fair trade off I’d say.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

sniperjzp wrote: post #17

Watching youtube videos using Google's bandwidth, without watching any ads or paying for sub, I don't see how this could be legit in the long term.

The youtube-dl script has been available for what, a decade already? Has that not been long term enough for you? Newpipe is just an Android UI around the same functionality as youtube-dl.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by asfgianion »

izacus wrote: post #39
sniperjzp wrote: post #17

Watching youtube videos using Google's bandwidth, without watching any ads or paying for sub, I don't see how this could be legit in the long term.

I wonder why this is being downvoted - Google asks for subscription for features that this app hacks for free. In any other context this would be deemed unethical (or even piracy). E.g. think of an application that streams Apple Music without paying Apple or distributors of cracked apps with enabled in-app purchase features. And yet the HN community happily endorses such apps when it comes to Google. I also wonder wh…

Piracy isn't unethical.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by grawprog »

piyush_soni wrote: post #29

Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.

Yeah, I would recommend not signing in from your google and I might be paranoid, but I disable play protect. I've heard stories of accounts being banned for using newpipe, but they may just be stories with no basis behind it.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by bsdubernerd »

jedimastert wrote: post #35
sjroot wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most likely. I understand the appeal of these types of applications but it really just comes off as entitled IMO. Just watch the ads to support the content creators you care about - it isn’t that hard. I imagine this will be an unpopular opinion here though.

That's why I'm on YouTube Premium. I definitely watch enough youtube to get $10 out of it.

I'm happy to support content creators with patreon when they offer a way to do so. _Especially_ when they offer a way to see their videos off YouTube. I'd never pay a dime for YT itself due to their policies and overall platform.

I mostly use YouTube to discover niche content, but only because I've been running an ad-blocker since forever. I cannot fathom how anyone could enjoy it in any other way currently. When I see how IT works at friend's houses I'm horrified.

If YT blocked access for browsers with ad-blockers (or make it inconvenient enough) I would essentially stop using it.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

sjroot wrote: post #32
piyush_soni wrote: post #29

Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.

Most likely. I understand the appeal of these types of applications but it really just comes off as entitled IMO. Just watch the ads to support the content creators you care about - it isn’t that hard. I imagine this will be an unpopular opinion here though.

Counterpoint: the amount of advertisements needed to sustain video production ultimately hinders the value of the video.

If I'm watching an hour long video about X, and I have to watch 40 mid-roll ads, I'm way more likely to turn it off. I'd much rather directly support creators via Patreon, and Adblock everything else.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by izacus »

piyush_soni wrote: post #29

Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.

Considering that Google charges subscription for this features, it's not only against ToS, but also unethical IMO.

It's one thing to hate a company and refuse to use their products and a whole nother thing to promote products that sidestep features the service asks money for.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by mqus »

dirtyid wrote: post #26

Somewhat related: Is anyone familiar with youtube.videodeck.net / pockettube? Aggregates channels into subscription columns like RSS. Like old youtube collections. I've been using the service for years and have yet to see anyone else replicate the feature.

I'm not familiar with your examples, but NewPipe allows you to group your subscriptions and then show the latest videos from each group, sorted by upload date/time (or something similar).

What it misses from a usual RSS reader is the notifications (idk maybe they exist and you only have to turn them on) and the "read"/"viewed" marker.

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