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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by milkytron »

degraafc wrote: post #448
fahrradflucht wrote: post #248

I read a lot of people's experiences here in the thread and I think a lot of you really should give YouTube Premium a try. It solves most of the problems you are describing, while also paying the creators

I would, but Google disabled my YT account with no reasoning or explanation. So now I'm a bit hesitant to pay for their services on another account...

Similarly, I cannot log into my YouTube account on some devices. I can log in to my Google account, but it doesn't have the same subscriptions, likes, watch history, etc. On other devices, if I log in with my Google account it logs into my YouYube account, which has what I need. The two accounts must have been synced at some point, but I can't always access the original YT account, which sucks.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by emilburzo »

jdeibele wrote: post #454
elwell wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why would you think that using open source software to access bits off of global internet is unethical/illegitimate? "It's just bits." That's a slippery slope. One might argue that circumventing the intended purpose of a platform in this way uses technological advantage to take advantage of content creators who are vulnerable. The kid who takes all the candy from the "Please take one." jack-o-lantern on Halloween i…

I just spent a few hours at an elderly relative's house checking over her computer. She had her screen lock and a message on Chrome saying that she needed to "Call Microsoft" and she wasn't able to close the window, etc. So she called and "John Henderson" was able to talk her into installing LogMeIn. He then started about charging her $149 and she came to her senses and called me. I'm 99% sure that she was served som…

> Even if you change it on your personal device, they'll force DNS on you.

How does that work?

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by hug »

627467 wrote: post #458
themacguffinman wrote: post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I read a lot 'entitled' opinions in this thread pretending that the whole world should ignore their circumstances Come on, how many of the HN users bragging in this thread about blocking YT ads are in a similar situation? I'm glad you've come up with a convincing justification for your behavior, but you've built a mighty strawman there, no one is arguing that people who cannot afford a modern smartphone are the pro…

The convincing justification is only one part of the argument. The other part is about freedom to challenge contemporary adtech and digital business models.. ie. Compute on my terms. Content creators and YouTubers are welcome to not serve me their content if I don't accept their trackers. It's not only about affording a modern smartphone: all these digital behemoths rely on us keeping up to date to their tech standar…

> Content creators and YouTubers are welcome to not serve me their content

Except they are not. If you turn on an ad blocker and use YouTube, the creator of the content has no way to stop you.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by wintermutestwin »

izacus wrote: post #51
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counterpoint: the amount of advertisements needed to sustain video production ultimately hinders the value of the video. If I'm watching an hour long video about X, and I have to watch 40 mid-roll ads, I'm way more likely to turn it off. I'd much rather directly support creators via Patreon, and Adblock everything else.

YouTube Premium will not show any Ads. You just need to pay for the service you're receiving. Since when is that an unreasonable ask?

I'd be more than happy to pay google for add free youtube if they weren't also stealing my data. Bottom line is that I should be able to set the price for my data and they wouldn't want to pay me what it is worth to me.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by brnt »

djeiasbsbo wrote: post #397
brnt wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All app stores are far shadier thans torrents websites or worse, warez websites of old. App stores come with spyware, adware, and regularly mineware or worden. I visit torrent websites for peace of mind. But mostly F-droid, which has Newpipe. Both excellent and reliable and shite-free. I really don't get app stores. How did they convince everyone to install so much spy and adware?

I don't really understand your point, F-Droid is definitely an app store. I think you must mainly mean the Google Play Store, where the situation seems really bad... As for Apple, they manually review every application. I remember iOS apps for jailbreaking getting removed incredibly quickly.

F droid is an exception. Google, Apple and Microsoft app stores are the best guarantee you're installing spyware. That's what ubiquitous telemetry is after all.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by Animats »

dmos62 wrote: post #178
drewg123 wrote: post #18

This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…

I've had it on my phone for some time, but 75% of the time it fails to play the video, complaining that it failed to parse the video page, or something similar. With youtube-dl, you have to keep it updated for it to not crash with similar errors, so might be a question of updates not being regular enough (I use F-Droid to update it). Also, suggestion capabilities of Youtube are very high. I'll always be coming back f…

Yes. Just installed it. Result on first video: Exception in NewPipe 0.19.3

    {"user_action":"requested stream","request":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRdkI09KCpk","content_language":"en_US","service":"YouTube","package":"org.schabi.newpipe","version":"0.19.3","os":"Linux Android 8.0.0 - 26","time":"2020-07-18 05:29","exceptions":["org.schabi.newpipe.extractor.stream.StreamInfo$StreamExtractException: Could not get any stream. See error variable to get further details.\n\tat org.schabi.newpipe.extractor.stream.StreamInfo.extractStreams(StreamInfo.java:192)\n\tat org.schabi.newpipe.extractor.stream.StreamInfo.getInfo(StreamInfo.java:70)\n\tat org.schabi.newpipe.extractor.stream.StreamInfo.getInfo(StreamInfo.java:62)\n\tat org.schabi.newpipe.util.ExtractorHelper.lambda$getStreamInfo$3(ExtractorHelper.java:116)\n\tat org.schabi.newpipe.util.-$$Lambda$ExtractorHelper$5fJcha6Sq5APJBLdG6osaJby-mc.call(Unknown Source:4)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.single.SingleFromCallable.subscribeActual(SingleFromCallable.java:44)\n\tat io.reactivex.Single.subscribe(Single.java:3438)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.single.SingleDoOnSuccess.subscribeActual(SingleDoOnSuccess.java:35)\n\tat io.reactivex.Single.subscribe(Single.java:3438)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.maybe.MaybeFromSingle.subscribeActual(MaybeFromSingle.java:41)\n\tat io.reactivex.Maybe.subscribe(Maybe.java:4154)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.maybe.MaybeConcatArray$ConcatMaybeObserver.drain(MaybeConcatArray.java:153)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.maybe.MaybeConcatArray$ConcatMaybeObserver.request(MaybeConcatArray.java:78)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.flowable.FlowableElementAtMaybe$ElementAtSubscriber.onSubscribe(FlowableElementAtMaybe.java:66)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.maybe.MaybeConcatArray.subscribeActual(MaybeConcatArray.java:42)\n\tat io.reactivex.Flowable.subscribe(Flowable.java:14479)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.flowable.FlowableElementAtMaybe.subscribeActual(FlowableElementAtMaybe.java:36)\n\tat io.reactivex.Maybe.subscribe(Maybe.java:4154)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.maybe.MaybeToSingle.subscribeActual(MaybeToSingle.java:46)\n\tat io.reactivex.Single.subscribe(Single.java:3438)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.operators.single.SingleSubscribeOn$SubscribeOnObserver.run(SingleSubscribeOn.java:89)\n\tat io.reactivex.Scheduler$DisposeTask.run(Scheduler.java:578)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.schedulers.ScheduledRunnable.run(ScheduledRunnable.java:66)\n\tat io.reactivex.internal.schedulers.ScheduledRunnable.call(ScheduledRunnable.java:57)\n\tat java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:266)\n\tat java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:301)\n\tat java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1162)\n\tat java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:636)\n\tat java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:764)\n"],"user_comment":""}
And this isn't on anything hard or new. It's a London Underground technical video.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by hyakosm »

ehsankia wrote: post #348
valvar wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I want to support a content creator, I do so by donating to them directly, not by allowing a massive and (in my personal opinion) evil company to profit both of my and their backs. Not to mention that both seeing ads and using the official YouTube app is quite unpleasant. I am very grateful to the developers of NewPipe for providing me with a painless way to experience the content produced by creators that I like,…

Honest and serious question, if Youtube were to shut down tomorrow, do people think that whatever alternative (or even better, competing alternatives) would have a different model? I'm curious to know what exactly would you do differently if you were to make a replacement for Youtube.

A decentralized video service powered by P2P, with content creators retributed by donations and/or ads and sponsorships inside videos.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by ss3000 »

drewg123 wrote: post #18

This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…

> This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google.

Isn't it funny how one man's feature is another man's bug?

Not supporting logging in with a Google account to keep subscriptions and history synchronized across devices is exactly what disqualifies it from consideration for me, and I suspect I'm not alone here.

For those like me there's YouTube Vanced, which is almost an exact clone of YouTube except without the ads, allows you to disable a bunch of distracting "features" like info cards and watermarks, and with the ability to use MicroG in place of Play Services for the actual logging in with Google feature: https://vanced.app/

Isn't it great that we both have the ability to choose the YouTube replacement app that works best for us despite Google technically "owning" the platform though? This is why I love Android. (EDIT: Re-read this and realized this could be seen as inflammatory. Really did not mean to start a platform war. Just glad that Android is a choice that's available to those who value this kind of thing.)

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by on_and_off »

coayer wrote: post #55

Probably my favourite part about Newpipe is the option to skip silences. If you're watching/listening to a speech-only video, it (at least feels) like such an improvement.

oh wow, I need to go look at how this works.

The people that created pocketcast implemented the same feature and as I remember it it is pretty wild implementation wise.

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