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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Nice. Just discovered that you can open videos from the official YouTube client by using the "Share" menu and selecting NewPipe. It has multiple options, including download/open/open as popup.

This make it much more useful for me, I can still have access to my YouTube account but I can open the actual videos in NewPipe and skip ads/have more control of the playback options.

Also, this bug from official YouTube app does not happen in NewPipe, making it much more useful to me since I use a custom caption settings because Amazon Prime Video (but they look horrible in official YouTube app because there is no outline): https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/e935yz/bug_caption...

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#392

Anybody know why YouTube doesn't plug the ad-bypassing loophole of fetching the content directly youtube-dl style? I presume this NewPipe client is doing something similar...

Could they? I suppose they could concatenate ads into the video files directly, sort of like an old TV "stream"...

...except I have a decades-old VCR that can skip those too, so the technology today could probably deal with that pretty easily.

"ad-bypassing" is essentially choosing not to consume content; while most if not all DRM and other protections are for preventing people from consuming content, preventing them from not consuming content is nearly impossible unless you essentially have control over their minds.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#393

I absolutely love newpipe, and use it exclusively over the youtube app on android. On a similar note - I also have found invidious [1] to be so much better than the normal youtube web frontend, and use it almost exclusively for my desktop youtube usage. It might be an unfair comparison because I am not a google user and the youtube website is terrible for non-logged-in users, but for us it is an absolute godsend. I a…

Invidious is grand. I think the missing killer feature that I want is to long into invidious via NewPipe.

I know that logging in isn't possible yet but invidious links can actually be opened with NewPipe I think.

Also other great substitutes for Twitter and Instagram are Nitter[0] and Bibliogram[1].

[0]https://nitter.net

[1]https://bibliogram.art

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I used this a bit on a previous Android phone I had. (I still use Android, but am on a newer one now) It sounds good in theory but had a lot of rough edges that made me just go back to regular Youtube. I remember running into a lot of hiccups going full screen and not full screen, or rotating screens, or moving forward or backward on a video. Nothing was completely breaking but it was all minor issues like switching…

There is a setting to automatically switch to the Picture-in-Picture player when one switches to other apps or presses the back button.

So i've never had those issues, because videos simply never stopped playing!

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#395

Remember, "your contract with the network when you get the show is you're going to watch the spots." If Google catches you attempting to circumvent ads, they are within their rights to consider you a thief and treat you accordingly.

I bet if they can catch you closing your eyes or turning away or thinking of something else, they would.

They are absolute scum.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#396

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Surprised by how little people are talking about this. Those ads are the only source of income for some creators.

And if you want to support the creator and not get ads, there's Youtube Premium. I often hear "I'd rather pay a small amount and not get ads", but when provided with that, they then resort to some other excuse to still use ad-block.

Or you can pay the creator directly.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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It sounds like the sort of shady ads you would get on torrent websites or image boards.

All app stores are far shadier thans torrents websites or worse, warez websites of old. App stores come with spyware, adware, and regularly mineware or worden. I visit torrent websites for peace of mind. But mostly F-droid, which has Newpipe. Both excellent and reliable and shite-free. I really don't get app stores. How did they convince everyone to install so much spy and adware?

I don't really understand your point, F-Droid is definitely an app store.

I think you must mainly mean the Google Play Store, where the situation seems really bad... As for Apple, they manually review every application. I remember iOS apps for jailbreaking getting removed incredibly quickly.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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> There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. I use an iPhone 6 and have refused to upgrade iOS to the latest version, so there are quite a few apps that don't work on my phone anymore (when launched, they show a message saying I need to get the latest version of the app, but then I can't get it because it's not available for my version of iOS), one of thos…

If you have installed the app before, you should be able to open the App Store, and go to your past purchases. If you find the app in there, then it should download the last compatible version. I have used that to load old apps onto an iPad that I can't update.

You can also upload IPA files to your iPhone using older versions of iTunes that supports sideloading saved (but purchased) IPA files. Apple now offers downloads for these older versions of iTunes, see here: https://support.apple.com/downloads/itunes

Apple also makes iTunes 12.6.x available for download, but it's hidden on this page: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208079 - this is the last Windows version with IPA management, but there are also other ways to sideload IPA files without needing XCode and a developer signing certificate, e.g. https://codeburst.io/latest-itunes-12-7-removed-the-apps-opt...

The question is - how are we supposed to save and archive those IPA files today?

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

#399

YouTube is one of the worst Android apps in regards of usability, accidental clicks, and anoying ads. It would be great if there was a way installing the app without allowing third party sources. Haven't developed on Android since years. Does anyone know if I can build it and upload it via ADB without enabling apps from 3rd party sources.

For Android, I just use the standard YouTube mobile site with fennec Firefox and ublock origin. Seems to work fairly well on my old S6 for 1080p60 content and below. I suspect that's not very battery efficient though.

I highly recommend using invidio.us (or another invidious instance) instead.

Also, as an ad free and non tracking twitter alternative there is nitter.net (other nitter instances exist as well).

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I hope you realize that apps like these kill the ecosystem for content creators who are paid based on ads. If you don't like YT ads, pay for the premium version. But suggesting that this app is great is not right. Anyways, I trust if this becomes big, YT will kill them anyways. YT API requires keys and they know exactly what is going on here and can shut it down in a heartbeat if they want to. This is exactly what ha…

If I want to support a content creator, I do so by donating to them directly, not by allowing a massive and (in my personal opinion) evil company to profit both of my and their backs. Not to mention that both seeing ads and using the official YouTube app is quite unpleasant. I am very grateful to the developers of NewPipe for providing me with a painless way to experience the content produced by creators that I like,…

> If I want to support a content creator, I do so by donating to them directly, not by allowing a massive and (in my personal opinion) evil company to profit both of my and their backs. Not to mention that both seeing ads and using the official YouTube app is quite unpleasant.

There is a big problem in your model. But before that let me address the reason why the current model is better. You are right that the intermediary company is profiting out of your and content creator's backs. That is true. But that is not the complete picture. The company is also paying for hosting the content. In essence, the money that advertisers pay is split in the following way:

1. Content Creator

2. Content hosting

3. Company gets the remaining chunk

Now here is why the current model is better: you can watch all videos on Youtube for free. Discovery is an essential part of how Content Creators are discovered. Now if you put all these Content Creators behind a paywall how are you going to decide if the Creator is worth supporting or not? And even if the Content is good, is s/he going to stick around for long? How many can you support? 10? 100? 1000? There is a limit isn't it? And what happens if the Content Creator stops releasing more content? Eventually subscribers will unsubscribe (stop payments). Then what happens to the Content? Will it remain hosted? Who is going to pay for the cost of hosting content that no one is watching? You won't be able to pay more than X$ amount because you feel that is what the Content Creator is worth to you. An advertiser is different. An advertiser is driven by motive of making profits. If s/he finds that advertising with a particular Content Creator is lucrative s/he spends way more than X$ that you contribute. In essence, the advertiser values the Content Creator more than you will ever be able to. Because you are consuming content from the creator - that is where your link with the creator ends. The ad agencies are making profits from the creator. That is the big difference! You are not motivated to pay more and more to the creator right? Advertisers are! And that will only continue to increase the more quality content the Creator puts out. And even if the Creator decides to take a break, advertisers will still continue to pay for a spot in his/her content as long as people are watching it (which they have discovered because Youtube is free). Would you pay for a Creator if s/he takes a break for 6 months to a year?

Advertising right now monetizes even 10 year old videos. However irrelevant that video might be for today's scenario you still have people watching extremely old videos and advertisements running on it with the Creator getting passive income. So even though a Content Creator might get a lesser chunk of the overall payment in the short term s/he would recover everything and a lot more over the longer term. But if s/he starts taking payment for Content then it will only continue until s/he is posting content. Once that is stopped people will leave the creator in droves. Then that content becomes a deadweight! The platform will never allow content to just sit around stale with no one paying for it. The platform will have no choice but to remove it.

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