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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I both pay for yt premium and use newpipe on older (degoogled) devices where using latest youtube.apk is not an option anymore. Also, where I live yt premium is a fraction of the cost of many developed countries, cheap for me but not for many in this country. In some countries yt premium is not even available. I read a lot 'entitled' opinions in this thread pretending that the whole world should ignore their circumst…

> I read a lot 'entitled' opinions in this thread pretending that the whole world should ignore their circumstances

Come on, how many of the HN users bragging in this thread about blocking YT ads are in a similar situation? I'm glad you've come up with a convincing justification for your behavior, but you've built a mighty strawman there, no one is arguing that people who cannot afford a modern smartphone are the problem.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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> There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. I use an iPhone 6 and have refused to upgrade iOS to the latest version, so there are quite a few apps that don't work on my phone anymore (when launched, they show a message saying I need to get the latest version of the app, but then I can't get it because it's not available for my version of iOS), one of thos…

>I use an iPhone 6 and have refused to upgrade iOS to the latest version Why not get an Android then?

I do have an Android and don't like it as much.

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I both pay for yt premium and use newpipe on older (degoogled) devices where using latest youtube.apk is not an option anymore. Also, where I live yt premium is a fraction of the cost of many developed countries, cheap for me but not for many in this country. In some countries yt premium is not even available. I read a lot 'entitled' opinions in this thread pretending that the whole world should ignore their circumst…

> why would you think that using open source software to access bits off of global internet is unethical/illegitimate? "It's just bits." That's a slippery slope. One might argue that circumventing the intended purpose of a platform in this way uses technological advantage to take advantage of content creators who are vulnerable. The kid who takes all the candy from the "Please take one." jack-o-lantern on Halloween i…

I just spent a few hours at an elderly relative's house checking over her computer.

She had her screen lock and a message on Chrome saying that she needed to "Call Microsoft" and she wasn't able to close the window, etc. So she called and "John Henderson" was able to talk her into installing LogMeIn. He then started about charging her $149 and she came to her senses and called me.

I'm 99% sure that she was served some Javascript via an ad network.

I installed uBlock Origin on both of her browsers. I tried changing her DNS to Adguard but it turns out that Comcast hasn't let people change DNS on their routers for many years. Even if you change it on your personal device, they'll force DNS on you.

I have been debating putting ad-blocking on their computer because I've worried about something like this happening. I'd also worried about some site not functioning properly because of ads being blocked. But we'll deal with that if and when.

Sorry but not sorry to sites that are doing 3rd party ad networks that they don't audit.

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Those "bunch of extra features" are paid features for the service though. For which you're not paying.

And which they are unable to use even if they were to pay for them, as they depend on Google Play Services.

This is actually the situation I'm in. Google Play Services are disabled on my device so I cannot use any YouTube premium features anyways.

If there was a way to pay for YouTube premium and make the money go to the creators I watch while using a FOSS client like NewPipe, I'd be willing to pay several more times the current price of YouTube premium for that.

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So this is your design ? Have mkbhd zip his file and send it to his million subscribers ?

Not who you asked and I’m not up to date when it comes to the world of video streaming but personally I’d prefer a web where content creators would have to pay to distribute their content. Pay as in have some server, domain, bandwidth and whatnot. It’s then up to the creator to decide how/if to monetize their content. Just like the old days.

Sounds like Vimeo.

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Would it be forbidden by Apple to publish a similar app for iOS?

I had another comment refuting the GP (as you are), but the more I thought about it, I decided to delete the comment. At the end of the day, you have to pay $99/year to publish on the Apple App Store, and on Android, although Google has had some shady practices around automatically flagging/removing apps from it's store, you have more options in terms of app distribution, such as F-Droid. To my (now deleted) comment'…

i think an open source app can easily be published on altstore.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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I both pay for yt premium and use newpipe on older (degoogled) devices where using latest youtube.apk is not an option anymore. Also, where I live yt premium is a fraction of the cost of many developed countries, cheap for me but not for many in this country. In some countries yt premium is not even available. I read a lot 'entitled' opinions in this thread pretending that the whole world should ignore their circumst…

> I read a lot 'entitled' opinions in this thread pretending that the whole world should ignore their circumstances Come on, how many of the HN users bragging in this thread about blocking YT ads are in a similar situation? I'm glad you've come up with a convincing justification for your behavior, but you've built a mighty strawman there, no one is arguing that people who cannot afford a modern smartphone are the pro…

The convincing justification is only one part of the argument.

The other part is about freedom to challenge contemporary adtech and digital business models.. ie. Compute on my terms.

Content creators and YouTubers are welcome to not serve me their content if I don't accept their trackers.

It's not only about affording a modern smartphone: all these digital behemoths rely on us keeping up to date to their tech standards, chasing the latest phone, the latest firmware.

Software like newpipe lets us engage on our own terms.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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This is the best youtube client, bar none. It keeps local history and "subscriptions" without requiring you to log in to google. I use it on an Amazon Fire Tablet. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, which is one of the things preventing me from upgrading to an iPad. Has anybody used it recently on AndroidTV / FireTV? I've tried it several times in the past, and its always been wonky there. I use SmartYouTubeTV ( ht…

It would be nice if you could sort subscriptions by date. Last time I used it, this wasn't possible, making the entire subscription functionality useless.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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This is a side note, but: I tried to install newpipe (by first installing F Droid), and Google prevented my pixel 3 from doing so because I am a user of Advanced Protection Program.

The OS has application permissions for apps: why is a feature designed to protect my account (and only my account) preventing me from independently installing free and open source software?

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