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What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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post #23

Still no first-class calendar and contact sync with mobile and online services!?

Set up a radicale server and and the calendars sync just fine. Add the cardbook adding and contacts do too. I guess thats what you mean by not first class? https://radicale.org/3.0.html

AFAICT, Cardbook doesn't work with TB78 (https://gitlab.com/CardBook/CardBook/-/issues/574) . The built-in Calendar integration is real nice though - was able to pick up various CalDAV options well. Edit1: fixed link.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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post #77

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Clients tend to get confused about where one address ends and the next one starts. I'm sure there are ways to solve this well, but my personal experience makes me skeptical.

Commas?

Yes, if that's how it's implemented... Gmail doesn't. They wrap your email address text in a button thing. Others prefer semicolons, or was it commas, or was it both?

Its just yet another thing I shouldn't have to think about

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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post #94
post #86

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In what way?

Each email in its own file means a minimum of x KB on disk for each email, where x is usually 4. For people with thousands of emails that's very wasteful.

Maildir, as opposed to emails stored in one big file, does cause some disk space to get wasted, but in past 10 years, it is immaterial. Even million empty emails, each taking 4kB of disk space, would take only 4GB in total. The small files aren't a concern for saving disk space: the big ones are.

Maildir has the advantage that searching, adding and deleting emails is very fast, much faster than if those operations were made on single big file. Worth it.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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post #160

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I think Outlook itself is a big reason for why other email clients seem so behind. As a user, Outlook is great and I have absolutely no complaints about it. As a developer that occasionally has to work with the technical side of emails, Outlook is the biggest source of frustration due to its “proprietary” standard of content presentation, address book management, contacts etc. I have to write plenty of code specifica…

Yeah, this. I'm on a Mac, and really prefer the native Mac mail client. It's fast, polished, and has insanely great search tools. But I keep Outlook running, too, because to properly and reliably deal with Exchange calendaring (esp with respect to coordinated online meeting setup), it's really the only good option. Which means I have two copies of my work email corpus on my machine. And it's not small.

It’s great, but also super frustrating. Like how it will suddenly pop into focus every few hours (possibly showing your personal emails while screen sharing) or how message content sometimes just doesn’t display.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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post #78

I've started using Thunderbird again after months of trying literally every other solution on the market. I wanted to switch from Outlook and Gmail to something that is fast, has good keyboard support and a good message editor. It's incredible how slow most of the email clients on the market are. What's even more incredible is that, apart from Outlook, none of the other clients offer a good way of editing tables prop…

On the other Hand the way Thunderbird profiles work you might have to do this only once a decade and not once every new device. At least this was the case in for me

I've been carrying over my Thunderbird profile to new computers since the 00s. It's just restoring a folder from backup, no obscure settings in the registry or hidden folders.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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post #73

I love Thunderbird and I use it since forever. I welcome this update and changes, but they really have to fix Search .

I second this. This is my number one usability issue with TB, that I use almost everyday. Example: I recently (2 months) received, say, 150 e-mails from one person. During that same period, that person has also received lots (~300) of e-mails that are in my client: ones I sent, ones they were CC-ed, etc. Now, I need to find that pdf they sent me some time ago. It would be no problem to scour the 10 or so message I re…

Thunderbird has three search methods: quick search allows you to filter by Sendor (unselect Recipients), but you can also do a more granular search using EditFindSearch Messages (Ctrl+Shift+F). I don’t use the other Ctrl+K search much.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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from a linked site: > Update: A few of you have asked how to make a contribution to Thunderbird under the new corporation, especially when using the monthly option. Please check out our updated site at give.thunderbird.net! I want something like this for Firefox too!

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Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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I've started using Thunderbird again after months of trying literally every other solution on the market. I wanted to switch from Outlook and Gmail to something that is fast, has good keyboard support and a good message editor. It's incredible how slow most of the email clients on the market are. What's even more incredible is that, apart from Outlook, none of the other clients offer a good way of editing tables prop…

On macOS I use Mailmate. It's what Thunderbird should have been imo.

Thanks for the recommendation. When looking for screenshots I found Tyler Roland’s review and follow up and am intrigued.

https://tyler.io/mailmate/ https://tyler.io/additional-mailmate-tips/

MailMate’s correspondence viewer looks great. The conversations add-on for Thunderbird keeps locking up for me, even when I’m in the middle of writing an email. Maddening.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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While minimize to tray is finally there, it would be good to have: 1. close to tray 2. start minimized (changing shortcut properties in Windows to start minimized doesn't do anything). 3. Always keep tray icon - now it is removed when you click on it which is anoying I am sure people will accidentally click close instead of minimize.

This sort of thing should be a feature provided by the Desktop Environment so that you can set how each application operates for closing and minimising.

Yeah, it should come as systemic feature.

In the meantime, there is Minimize on Close plugin that works with v70.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this. I'm on a Mac, and really prefer the native Mac mail client. It's fast, polished, and has insanely great search tools. But I keep Outlook running, too, because to properly and reliably deal with Exchange calendaring (esp with respect to coordinated online meeting setup), it's really the only good option. Which means I have two copies of my work email corpus on my machine. And it's not small.

It’s great, but also super frustrating. Like how it will suddenly pop into focus every few hours (possibly showing your personal emails while screen sharing) or how message content sometimes just doesn’t display.

What app are you saying does these tings?

I experience neither issue on my Mac with Mail.app or Outlook, so I suspect local issues for you.

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