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What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Just FIY the winmail.dat (the horrible Microsoft email format) plugin LookOut (Fix Version) has not been updated for this release and unless someone jumps in to help Probably wont be updated. https://github.com/TB-throwback/LookOut-fix-version/

I was maintaining it but haven't been able to find time to work on the upgrade.

There was talk in the dev mailing list about adding TNEF support but that probably wont happen until 2021

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Many of these UI changes seem like backward steps. https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/compose-compariso... Old: Clear that you can enter multiple "To" addresses. Obvious that the formatting buttons are buttons. New: Single-line "to" implies you can only enter one address. "Flat" buttons don't look like buttons. https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/account-setup.png Extra white space makes the window nea…

Not a fan of the flat buttons but I strongly disagree about the single/multi line TO situation. I doubt there will be a single person for whom Thunderbird is their first email/messaging type app. Most would have used something on their iOS or Android devices first at least. All of them will be comfortable with multiple users in a single To line, while having multiple lines for multiple users will actually appear alie…

Perpetuating bad UX choices (or at least trade offs made under the mobile constraint) from mobile into the desktop doesn't help anyone.

I use thunderbird because I want an email client, not a dumbed down web experience built for mobile.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a fan of the flat buttons but I strongly disagree about the single/multi line TO situation. I doubt there will be a single person for whom Thunderbird is their first email/messaging type app. Most would have used something on their iOS or Android devices first at least. All of them will be comfortable with multiple users in a single To line, while having multiple lines for multiple users will actually appear alie…

Perpetuating bad UX choices (or at least trade offs made under the mobile constraint) from mobile into the desktop doesn't help anyone. I use thunderbird because I want an email client, not a dumbed down web experience built for mobile.

Who said it's a difference made under mobile constraints?

I've literally never used a mail client that didn't do multiple emails on the same line. On Desktop or Mobile.

And it's never been an issue.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Many of these UI changes seem like backward steps. https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/compose-compariso... Old: Clear that you can enter multiple "To" addresses. Obvious that the formatting buttons are buttons. New: Single-line "to" implies you can only enter one address. "Flat" buttons don't look like buttons. https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/account-setup.png Extra white space makes the window nea…

Extra white space makes the window nearly twice the size for no apparent reason.

The old window was twice as big as it needs to be too, but I agree the new one is even worse.

I don't like the flat buttons either. I don't use macOS much, but the old ones with a subtle border look like they're native UI, whereas the new flat ones don't. A random image I found confirms that the old buttons and checkbox look the same as what the OS itself uses, while the new ones look very out-of-place:

https://i.stack.imgur.com/5ACES.png

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Many of these UI changes seem like backward steps. https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/compose-compariso... Old: Clear that you can enter multiple "To" addresses. Obvious that the formatting buttons are buttons. New: Single-line "to" implies you can only enter one address. "Flat" buttons don't look like buttons. https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/account-setup.png Extra white space makes the window nea…

Not a fan of the flat buttons but I strongly disagree about the single/multi line TO situation. I doubt there will be a single person for whom Thunderbird is their first email/messaging type app. Most would have used something on their iOS or Android devices first at least. All of them will be comfortable with multiple users in a single To line, while having multiple lines for multiple users will actually appear alie…

Agreed the multi line To field was a frustrating user experience. From my office we were reliant on the addon MRC Compose as no-one would use it over outlook otherwise

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

#30

Finally dark mode! Some Windows only add-ons could do it. But now Mac and Linux can too

Every time I hear about this recent "dark mode/light mode" fad I am reminded of a time when most software would use the OS's native and fully colour-customisable UI which let you have dark mode[1], light mode[2], rainbow mode[3], and everything in between[4], consistently across all applications with basically zero effort on the part of the application developers.

What a pitiful regression it has been since then.

[1] https://64.media.tumblr.com/6d3e8c64cd9a38e70d24c0b1b2c73cb5...

[2] https://64.media.tumblr.com/736251fc23ae5bd8afe4656345d44893...

[3] https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-47IBJRvvGzo/UMohyEJvGEI/AAAAAAAAE...

[4] https://never-obsolete.tumblr.com/tagged/windows-9x-color-sc...

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