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Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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What is the "tone" of literally accusing posters of not caring if people are dying?

Appealing to your humanity.

Dismissing people with nuanced views as being inhumane is a personal attack and a violation of the rules here.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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My family got corona positive last month, around the same time my brother started having some neurological issues. The doctors after seeing the MRI did not detect any issues. The same was confirmed by other radiologists and multiple other MRI scans over the month. Yet he faces these issues: nausea,headache,confusion,weakness,ataxia (unsteady walk) sensory changes, including numbness or tingling,trouble with vision (o…

I'm no doctor, but during this period I've experienced anxiety, and some of those symptoms match physical symptoms of anxiety. Nausea, headache, difficulty breathing, tight chest and neck (hell i've noticed even the fucking tongue was tight being pressed against the teeth and I didn't even realize that), tingling of hands/feet/arms, and during a spike you get confusion and you make poor decisions, heart bpm goes to 1…

Boosting this. I’ve had anxiety problems for years and it’s crazy how it can manifest as real physical symptoms. Every doctor visit always ends up with the same diagnosis: anxiety.

Most recently I was 100% convinced I was having a retina detachment. Noticing a ton of “floaters”, sparkles in my vision, etc. Came back from a comprehensive examination at the eye doctor and the diagnosis was yet again, anxiety. After the clean bill of health, a lot of the symptoms disappeared.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Other coronaviruses can infect the nervous system. In fact, there were papers out in 2018 describing neural infections by "human coronavirus". Cytokine storms and their associated effects (like clotting ,etc.) are also present with other viral infections, like with the original Spanish Flu H1N1 strain (during the infamous "second wave"). "Regular" pneumonia can severely weaken you for months or a year, even if you ha…

The problems could be related with the fact that pangolins have an unique and strange immune system. Reduced in comparison with most other mammals (but I'm speculating...)

Immune systems are fairly differentiated across species, even for common mechanisms. Source: I worked from 2009 to 2011 in a project aiming at reconstructing part of these mechanisms in certain immune cells, and the differences between human and mice, where some models were made, were significant.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…

> You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild The death rate alone is ~0.8%. There are another few percent that require hospitalization. The >99% of covid cases are not mild.

"The death rate alone is ~0.8%."

It is not.

The current estimates for IFR run from ~0.2-0.7%. The current best estimate of IFR from the CDC is 0.65%, with the deaths skewed heavily to the elderly and infirm.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena...

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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The reason you “get so concerned” is because you are spreading fear, and you systematically attempt to censor anyone who points out that your fear isn’t supported by evidence.

". . . isn't supported by evidence." This thread is _literally_ about the gold-standard scientific evidence (gathered by Spanish doctors) about how COVID is attacking the nervous system.

The comment I made was _literally_ just two quotes from the gold-standard spanish doctors.

Such evidence is good when it supoorts your narrative, and bad when it doesn’t. Think about that for a second.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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post #17

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The reason you “get so concerned” is because you are spreading fear, and you systematically attempt to censor anyone who points out that your fear isn’t supported by evidence.

Does your statement change if I personally know several people who are ill and a few who have died? I have first hand experience. Do you? Yes, I am afraid, but that fear is backed by empirical evidence and my study of the science of this disease, not the media. You should be afraid as well.

No. Facts are facts.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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....most of which are mild, and which accompany any virus: ”According to Segura, who co-authored the study, the most common symptoms experienced by coronavirus patients were myalgia, headaches and dizziness.” And the truly killer quote: ”Another large-scale study...showed that 90% of cases simultaneously experienced changes to, or the loss of, the sense of smell and taste. In most of these cases, these changes were t…

There is a reason we get so concerned when there is evidence of CNS infection. It's not as simple as "loss of smell."

No, the reason you “get so concerned” is because you are scared, and intent on spreading fear to others.

You downvote factual comments simply because you don’t agree with them, and don’t want others to see them.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

#88
post #82

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I'm no doctor, but during this period I've experienced anxiety, and some of those symptoms match physical symptoms of anxiety. Nausea, headache, difficulty breathing, tight chest and neck (hell i've noticed even the fucking tongue was tight being pressed against the teeth and I didn't even realize that), tingling of hands/feet/arms, and during a spike you get confusion and you make poor decisions, heart bpm goes to 1…

Boosting this. I’ve had anxiety problems for years and it’s crazy how it can manifest as real physical symptoms. Every doctor visit always ends up with the same diagnosis: anxiety. Most recently I was 100% convinced I was having a retina detachment. Noticing a ton of “floaters”, sparkles in my vision, etc. Came back from a comprehensive examination at the eye doctor and the diagnosis was yet again, anxiety. After the…

You might have had a migraine aura. I have them. One of my coworkers has them too, and they told him it was retina detachment, until he had an episode that lasted one hour before going right back to normal. That was a clue that it was migraine aura all along.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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People seem to have a naïve view of what “cured” means: someone “gets sick”, is treated, and then returns to the status quo ante . Thus there is little concern about catching the disease (or any disease) when you are not in an “at risk” group. But hospital discharge just means the treatment you get stops being worth the time/money. Ideally you finish convalescing at home. But any consequential damage isn’t ignored, a…

Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…

Stop spreading misinformation in here please. There is no way that >99% cases are mild when the current estimates put the actual fatality rate to around 1%. You are just repeating Trump lies, and lies are not well accepted here.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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> Masks became political the moment the CDC, WHO, and US Surgeon General Ah, I see you take the Trumpian line of "it's everybody else's fault except me!". It became political in your country because the dozy muppet you elected as president can't actually deal with anything. > "People are actually dying" isn't the adult conversation. It's the reality on the ground. Other countries are gradually opening up their "draco…

>Ah, I see you take the Trumpian line of "it's everybody else's fault except me!". It became political in your country because the dozy muppet you elected as president can't actually deal with anything. I'm pro-mask and anti-Trump. Let's be clear. The world's leading experts gave us mask advice that they knew was a lie and likely lead to the deaths of tens of thousands additional people. No one has been fired. No one…

You carry on the "draconian measures" until the virus is unable to spread and dies out. It's not magic. It spreads through human contact. Reduce contact you reduce transmission.

You are in the same camp as Trump because you're spouting clueless crap as though it's authoritative.

I'm perfectly happy to be "not participating in the conversation" because your conversation is moronic bullshit.

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