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Because the better these apps get, the more likely the jackals will DRM the video streams.
NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
NewPipe just scrapes the website. It uses no official APIs, and it does not try to fool the Google infrastructure into thinking it was the official YouTube app or something. Google should, at least in theory, treat users of NewPipe same way it treats browser users with adblock.
Can you please not mention adblock. Last thing we want is google banning adblock users
So next time you see a YouTube employee, thank them for that
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Um. Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. >(and you can choose whether to download them as audio files) Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone.
What can Google's app do what NewPipe can't?
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Um. Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? >Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. That is definitely an option, but people who use things like youtube-dl or apps like NewPipe probably aren't in the target audience for YouTube Premium. >Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone.…
> Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? It's to add condescension.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#165The app is great, but wasn't google recently banning user accounts for it? Youtube account and google account is same thing, so this app is useful only for othwerwise ungoogled users
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you please not mention adblock. Last thing we want is google banning adblock users
Fun story: adblock does NOT block youtube ads. It would be almost impossible to - they are served from the same inscrutable urls as real videos. Instead youtube detects adblock and does not show ads to adblock users on purpose. So next time you see a YouTube employee, thank them for that
Do you have a source or a more detailed explanation for that?
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google has terms of use on their service. > You are violating those terms of service. That's not what piracy means, and that's not how the law works. If I state that the terms of service of reading this comment are that you must hop on one leg for the rest of your life, and you continue to walk on two, you won't be violating any laws.
I didn't say you're violating laws (but you may well be violating DMCA sections), I said you're violating terms of service. The expectation could be that they halt your use of the service, block access to their other service, and may disable your account. OP claimed, "It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like." That is not accurate. He doesn't magically GA…
What's the difference between downloading and streaming a video? It's OK for the bytes to stay in main memory/network cache, but not in HDD? Would taking a memory dump of the RAM break their TOS?
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, that's not how any of this works. Google has terms of use on their service. You are violating those terms of service. This is completely cut and dry.
Assuming this is true(that there's a clause against viewing YouTube with a third party client), then they're free to ban users like me from their service(and suffer the PR backlash), that doesn't mean that breaking that clause is unethical or illegal(I'm not from the US, we don't have draconian internet laws here)
It just also is unethical. Cheers.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not piracy. Youtube is sending you packets, out of their own choice. It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like. Playing in the background is not a "feature", it's a basic device capability, the fact that YouTube went out of their way to prevent it does not make it right, imagine if the browser client had stopped playing when you went out of focus -…
With Android, I believe you could always run anything you wanted in the background, provided you had enough memory. Starting with versions 5-6, restrictions have been put in to prevent abuses and battery draining with the user unaware of it. The two OSs converged towards a mean point from opposite directions in this case.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't say you're violating laws (but you may well be violating DMCA sections), I said you're violating terms of service. The expectation could be that they halt your use of the service, block access to their other service, and may disable your account. OP claimed, "It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like." That is not accurate. He doesn't magically GA…
Nowhere did I imply that I'd gain copyright over the content. What's the difference between downloading and streaming a video? It's OK for the bytes to stay in main memory/network cache, but not in HDD? Would taking a memory dump of the RAM break their TOS?
"It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like."
YouTube lets you rent movies for 48 hours.
You download a movie. You then claimed you can watch the movie in any form you like. Such as, later than the 48 hours.