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NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by stronglikedan »

ibdf wrote: post #124

Youtube might be the only place I actually don't mind ads. Some creators on youtube are extremely good at providing valuable content in short form - I use it primarily as a learning platform, whether I am doing wood work, learning how to fix something at home, or learning about a new topic. I would rather continue to support these creators by watching ads on their own channel than paying for a subscription that cover…

I don't mind the ads either, but I do like to play music mixes without having to keep my phone on, so I may use this just for that.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by NullPrefix »

ibdf wrote: post #124

Youtube might be the only place I actually don't mind ads. Some creators on youtube are extremely good at providing valuable content in short form - I use it primarily as a learning platform, whether I am doing wood work, learning how to fix something at home, or learning about a new topic. I would rather continue to support these creators by watching ads on their own channel than paying for a subscription that cover…

Most of these creators accept actual money

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by drbacon »

noarchy wrote: post #57
drbacon wrote: post #42

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Um. Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. >(and you can choose whether to download them as audio files) Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone.

>Um. Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? >Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. That is definitely an option, but people who use things like youtube-dl or apps like NewPipe probably aren't in the target audience for YouTube Premium. >Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone.…

> Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud?

Of course.

> ...probably aren't in the target audience for YouTube Premium.

True. It's unclear if OP fits that description though. Re-read OP's comment.

> ...there's no point to having video.

Agreed. I think it most cases, there is no video for still image YouTube content. Just, you know, a still image. I don't know the extent this is true, nor do I know OP's use case. Assuming that OP is interested in music, the video component shouldn't be a real issue. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6007071?hl=en

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by manjalyc »

monokh wrote: post #133

Incredible. The idea that YouTube artificially limits the function to get you to do stuff is really annoying. I love that you can send the audio to the background. I've wanted that for years.

IIRC they used to let you do that a decade ago, then slowly made it harder and harder until it was impossible. Its a 'feature' now of youtube premium so take that as you will.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by izacus »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #116
izacus wrote: post #51

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YouTube Premium will not show any Ads. You just need to pay for the service you're receiving. Since when is that an unreasonable ask?

YouTube makes a profit, after all operational costs are accounted for, they aren't paying creators what they're owed. Why would I support a company who regularly short changes the creators who work hard to produce quality content?

Hmm, YouTube pays out massive amount of money every year to creators (if I remember their revenue report, it's majority of their revenue), so I'm not sure what exactly are you talking about?

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by VikingCoder »

frenchy wrote: post #135
VikingCoder wrote: post #100

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No, that's not how any of this works. Google has terms of use on their service. You are violating those terms of service. This is completely cut and dry.

> Google has terms of use on their service. > You are violating those terms of service. That's not what piracy means, and that's not how the law works. If I state that the terms of service of reading this comment are that you must hop on one leg for the rest of your life, and you continue to walk on two, you won't be violating any laws.

I didn't say you're violating laws (but you may well be violating DMCA sections), I said you're violating terms of service. The expectation could be that they halt your use of the service, block access to their other service, and may disable your account.

OP claimed, "It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like." That is not accurate. He doesn't magically GAIN COPYRIGHT over content, just because he downloaded it. His use MAY be covered by Fair Use Laws, but it may also still be a violation of YouTube's Terms of Service.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by hombre_fatal »

VikingCoder wrote: post #92
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #48

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Counterpoint: the amount of advertisements needed to sustain video production ultimately hinders the value of the video. If I'm watching an hour long video about X, and I have to watch 40 mid-roll ads, I'm way more likely to turn it off. I'd much rather directly support creators via Patreon, and Adblock everything else.

Should it be your choice or the creator's choice how you support them?

While an interesting question, 99% of people are just looking for free content, not for alternate ways to support content creators. So it's not all that relevant of a question.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by NullPrefix »

5evOX5hTZ9mYa9E wrote: post #67
piyush_soni wrote: post #29

Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.

NewPipe just scrapes the website. It uses no official APIs, and it does not try to fool the Google infrastructure into thinking it was the official YouTube app or something. Google should, at least in theory, treat users of NewPipe same way it treats browser users with adblock.

Can you please not mention adblock. Last thing we want is google banning adblock users

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by specialist »

drbacon wrote: post #120
specialist wrote: post #94

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So you're saying Google (YouTube) should share some of their lion's share of cheddar with content creators?

Definitely. Creators do get the lion share of YouTube's gross revenue. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/03261...

Ok. Color me surprised. I assumed the payout was much less. Thanks.

Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client

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Post by FrenchyJiby »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #22

To those who are looking for few convincing features over YouTube app - It has background playback, download, pop out player all without having to sign-in to any account.

All lovely features, the killer for me is support for playback speed adjustment (percent), pitch adjustment, and skipping silence in audio!

Perfect for podcasts: run playlist in background at x2 with "skip silences" on.

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