Replace Covid-19 with flu than you are right. Fever and T-cells can do a lot of damage. But thankfully they do mostly good things, killing the intruders.
Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system
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Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…
The problem is that there have been no large scale studies on those who were released from the hospital nor on those who were deemed 'not sick enough' to be hospitalized in the first place. Hopefully TX, FL, AZ are used as a basis for some study as so many of those in the hospital now are young (ie, under 40).
No, but these small scale studies point to prolonged complications only in those who were the most elderly and/or the most severely sick.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Other coronaviruses can infect the nervous system. In fact, there were papers out in 2018 describing neural infections by "human coronavirus". Cytokine storms and their associated effects (like clotting ,etc.) are also present with other viral infections, like with the original Spanish Flu H1N1 strain (during the infamous "second wave"). "Regular" pneumonia can severely weaken you for months or a year, even if you ha…
The problems could be related with the fact that pangolins have an unique and strange immune system. Reduced in comparison with most other mammals (but I'm speculating...)
This virus definitely looks as if it had ample time to adapt to human host. Just many early cases were probably undetected or misattributed.
Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a reason we get so concerned when there is evidence of CNS infection. It's not as simple as "loss of smell."
The reason you “get so concerned” is because you are spreading fear, and you systematically attempt to censor anyone who points out that your fear isn’t supported by evidence.
It seems more like you're trying to censor people talking about the scientific details and facts around covid-19.
Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system
#55Note that similar effects have been observed with other critical illnesses: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1301372
Indeed, and as someone who is familiar with the condition often described as "we can't exactly work out what it is but I guess you could all it CFS/ME [1]", this is often linked to common viral infections including Epstein-Barr and cytomegalovirus. CFS/ME sufferers often exhibit some of the neurological symptoms mentioned in the article (though not the more extreme/terminal ones like stroke). Lyme disease sufferers a…
I just want to point out that in the US at least, infections are often treated with flouroquinolones and the side effects can result in fibro/cfs diagnosis. Symptoms can show up even at 12 months. I have met numerous people over the years, who were given cipro/levaquin just in case while they were waiting for blood test results and started having odd neurological symptoms lasting months or years. Later results turned out to be normal and no infection.
The medical community has been failing most of these people and I am among them. Many report symptoms during their course and doctors rarely report the issue to the FDA. I have been to Mayo and other popular hospital systems and honestly sometimes I feel like there is a big conspiracy to protect the drug, it seems quite surreal.
In Europe during EMA panel a few doctors spoke out and mentioned the issues their patients are dealing with. Some patients also described their symptoms: neurological issues, widespread muscle/tendon pain, insomnia. It sounds very similar to CFS/Fibro.
Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system
#56People seem to have a naïve view of what “cured” means: someone “gets sick”, is treated, and then returns to the status quo ante . Thus there is little concern about catching the disease (or any disease) when you are not in an “at risk” group. But hospital discharge just means the treatment you get stops being worth the time/money. Ideally you finish convalescing at home. But any consequential damage isn’t ignored, a…
Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…
> You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild
The death rate alone is ~0.8%. There are another few percent that require hospitalization. The >99% of covid cases are not mild.
Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a reason we get so concerned when there is evidence of CNS infection. It's not as simple as "loss of smell."
The reason you “get so concerned” is because you are spreading fear, and you systematically attempt to censor anyone who points out that your fear isn’t supported by evidence.
Covid is only the single biggest cause of death in the US for the past few months, so safe!
Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system
#58My family got corona positive last month, around the same time my brother started having some neurological issues. The doctors after seeing the MRI did not detect any issues. The same was confirmed by other radiologists and multiple other MRI scans over the month. Yet he faces these issues: nausea,headache,confusion,weakness,ataxia (unsteady walk) sensory changes, including numbness or tingling,trouble with vision (o…
I tested positive this week. My symptoms are flash headaches and nausea along with persistent ear ringing. No other flu symptoms are present. I've never had headaches like this before, both in feeling and duration. I've been careful since the end of February. Always wearing a mask, social distancing, hand washing with soap and disinfectant wipes. I've had limited exposure to other people except delivery people, my GF…
So where do you think you caught it? Seems strange that some people take all precautions and still end up getting it.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's useless to argue the numbers With very few exceptions, those "arguing the numbers" present a systematically biased and intentionally deceptive view that this virus is not dangerous and systematically hamper the collective action necessary to slow its spread. Instead of merely presenting a "balanced view", it's a rather irresponsible level of misinformation by...let's be frank...rather uninformed armchair epide…
>Basic shit like wearing masks is now political. Masks became political the moment the CDC, WHO, and US Surgeon General lied to the public by telling them that masks don't help and would even be worse than not wearing a mask. The world's leading experts made it political, don't blame nobodies with no power for that. >You should take this seriously because people are actually dying. "People are actually dying" isn't t…
Bang on. Around the time the US Govt issued the pandemic warning I was scrambling to get the information I needed to make adequate decisions about the safety of the public works crew I was managing. The COO of a local hospital was on the public works committee so I asked her what to do regarding PPE. Her response was honest: "Try to get some, but if you don't already have it, you probably won't be able to get any." If you remember, around that time we were hoarding toilet paper. Then I called the infectious disease specialist at our local health department and asked the same, what about PPE? The nice, polite lady told me masks were useless and depictions of Asians wearing masks were showing people who were concerned with the air pollution. So from the get-go there has been plenty of confusion coming through official channels.
Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tested positive this week. My symptoms are flash headaches and nausea along with persistent ear ringing. No other flu symptoms are present. I've never had headaches like this before, both in feeling and duration. I've been careful since the end of February. Always wearing a mask, social distancing, hand washing with soap and disinfectant wipes. I've had limited exposure to other people except delivery people, my GF…
So where do you think you caught it? Seems strange that some people take all precautions and still end up getting it.
It seems likely either delivery people, GF, or mom. All it takes is one person in your network to be in someone else's network, and someone there is in someone else's network, and suddenly you get COVID because you thought you were safe and they thought they were safe and they thought they were safe...