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TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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Dude, you should check the map of the Qing, compare it to the Republic of China (Taiwan), then compare it to the PRC. They ceded a whole lot of land all over the place, peacefully, as part of negotiations. For example the whole of Mongolia was part of Qing. They are not as war mongering as you believe.

The CCP is incredibly war mongering. Any look at 20th century history would tell you that. What is it with so many people reporting constant misinformation about the CCP into hacker news threads recently.

CCP is formed from people who wants to defend China's interests and defend the country from imperial powers of Japan, British, France and more. CCP fought wars to defend the country, it is the imperial powers that invaded China in the first place, and they thought to divide the land, the rich resources and colonize all of the Chinese people. Who is war mongering? Are we reading the same 20th century history? What about 19th century history?

CCP inherited many positions on sovereignty and territorial rights from Qing and Republic of China, which the US historically supported. Western media reports on China is far far from factual as well, with so much disinformation, biases and subjective views. Chinese positions and views are rarely covered in the media. Its so rare to see any positive views on China, despite a lot of amazing work that government has done to improve ordinary Chinese person's live. Here is the thing, we all view the world through our own lens and our culture. And the media is the reflection of how people interpret the world. The west has its position on China, Chinese people have their position on China. Chinese people and by extension CCP never want to dominate the world, they just want to defend what was part of China previously and be able to do so as equal peers. Any disputes and sovereignty claims should be negotiated and settled with mutual respect. And of course, no one is perfect, are there times when China is unethical and way to aggressive, definitely, but we should all use dialogue and attempts to understand each other's point of view.

Chinese wars are all about sovereignty and border disputes. U.S. wars are all fought on foreign lands in the interests of U.S. global dominance in foreign policy, trade, economy, technology etc. US uses diplomacy, ideology and identity politics, and military to challenge anyone who is considered a threat to the U.S. dominance. Who is more imperialistic and dominating you tell me.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

#252

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Huawei needs more chips than Apple, and are moving to produce all of their own chips. As a TSMC fab customer it's at least of the same scale as Apple.

Repeating the same lie in a reply doesn’t make it true. Recently there’s been an influx in the past few days of tons of sinophiles.

So what you are saying is that A who buys less from them is a bigger customer than B who buys more? Huawei buys more SoCs than apple hence they are a bigger customer. So that would make Apple small fry in your world. Not very likely.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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You mean after invading Taiwan? TSMC is in the Republic of China , not the People's Republic of China. They're not, for practical intents and purposes, the same country.

Search "1992 Consensus"

I specifically said 'for practical intents and purposes' to head off this sort of obnoxious "well ACKSHULLY..." response. The CCP does not rule in Taiwan. Until that changes, the CCP nationalizing TSMC isn't in the cards. And even if that happened, there probably wouldn't be anything left of TSMC to nationalize.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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China has been able to develop advanced stealth technology, quantum computing, supersonic combustion engine, and more, after the state decided that they were priorities that had to be developed. I don't see why EUV would be impossible for them to replicate. The list of times when we (and I too) thought that they could not catch up in a certain technology is long, and I won't make that bet anymore. The resources of th…

Yea, it will get done, but it will take a bunch of years. One of the best things I feel like I've learned in systems eng is that this stuff is just too disorganized and difficult. It's not enough to steal all of the plans - you're not going to make sense of them and they don't have the rejiggered edition Jimmy's WAR from last Tuesday. IP theft occurs because employees are owned for years at a time and are able to slo…

I agree, it will take bunch of years, but Chinese EUV research has already been underway for a while and they've been hiring like crazy in optics for years. I'm fairly confident that they will have it functional in the next 7 years.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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UN views Taiwan as a province of PRC

But it is not, and if the PRC tried doing that there would be a major military conflict that would result in TSMC not existing for the PRC's taking.

It is part of PRC according to almost all countries. Sure a few disagrees.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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the question is - how much of that "reason" is protectionism (patents, etc)? if you no longer care about pissing off the US and EU (because they're up in your business anyway) then maybe it doesn't matter so much if you violate those patents. Same thing as with Taiwan's "special trade status", Trump thinks that revoking their status will get China to leave them alone, because he has a very simplistic bullying-oriente…

The US under Trump is just far too unpredictable and unreliable. China appears more stable and predictable. Case in point: even post pandemic, when the US is withdrawing from the world, China doubled down on its commitment to Pakistan and initiated massive billion dollar projects last week. If I were Pakistan and in desperate need of financial assistance, I would look to China instead of USA, simply because of the fo…

>> I would look to China instead of USA

and now you know why China is investing in Pakistan, it is not because they are good hearted wanting to help Pakistan

It is destabilize the Region by putting a wedge between the US and Pakistan,

The US keeps Pakistan and India stable, if the US loses it's influence over Pakistan well that will be very bad for the region.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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> They get paid like kings and mostly live like kings. Careful with present tense, things have taken a stark turn for the worse in terms of the day-to-day reality of western foreigners in China, and it already was not spectacular (minders checking in on your domicile every couple weeks or month, basically zero standing in legal disputes including routine contract disputes).

TBH, these are exceedingly fringe scenarios that doesn't affect majority of expats living in China, i.e. certain motorcycle vloggers who got on the government shitlist. For the purpose of this article, if you're a sought after silicon engineer, you'll essentially have diplomatic immunity. China is going ham courting foreign talent in strategic field like 3x salary for entry level position, building churches for Korea…

Go lookup Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig.

China isn't afraid to play nasty political football using imprisoned and tortured and unconnected westerners as pawns.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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The founder of SMIC on the mainland is actually Taiwanese and a former TSMC executive. Loyalties cut across the strait both ways, westerners overemphasis attachment to values and ideology over bloodlines and ancestry. It's true for some but not for others. There are quite a lot of foreign engineers working on the mainland, especially Taiwanese engineers. If you are a industry vet or got some kind of special talent yo…

This is CCP Propaganda.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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Hard to tell without a free press

Hard to tell with a free press, since people just find the news they want to hear anyways. I guess our situation with getting news from Facebook is voluntary censorship. Maybe that’s better than forced censorship? What if the controller of news is benevolent? I think the situation is that the Chinese government is mostly benevolent to its own citizens, which is why it has fairly good political support domestically. T…

So silencing the original Covid-19 whistleblower allowing the virus to devastate Wuhan and propagate to the rest of the world is better than free press? How is that benevolent?

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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I see this news as a loss for the US. It has to resort to regulations to stop TSMC from doing business with Huawei. When you can't incentivize your ally, that means your opponent's business is still very attractive. Regulations will only cripple your ally. Taiwan may comply on the outside. But inside, they'll cut under-the-table deals with China. They'll find loop holes to skirt regulations.

Taiwan seems to be heading to be the next Hong Kong. Their political class is still publicly resistant. But their business leaders are slowly surrendering. At some point, the political class will follow. The US will then need to rely on the activism of the young renegade "colonels" like Joshua Wong. Crippling an ally can buy the US some time. But it is losing ground.

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