Well, unfortunately it looks like the evil gender-bender doctor dystopia has been alive and well in CA for some time now. Slow clap...
Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
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#52Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says
#53"oppositional defiant disorder" That's what they call mouthy rebels these days
It sounds quite Orwellian. I fondly remember being written up almost literally a hundred times throughout school for "willful disobedience" and being sent to the "behavior modification center" as punishment.
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#54This reads like the plot of a dystopian young adult sci-fi novel. Children who resist authority being diagnosed with a "behavioural disorder" and being forcibly given hormones by an evil doctor. Yet apparently this is the reality of modern society.
I remember when I had "strange behaviors" as young boy. Some times later i was circumcised. 30 years later I still suffer from it.
I want to get kids soon. I hope they get a strange as I was. Stupid, funny, dangerous.
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#55"oppositional defiant disorder" That's what they call mouthy rebels these days
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#56It's terrible how the lives of young men don't matter.
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#58I see no problem here. Kid should sue and win. Doctor gets investigated by the local/regional/national board of medicine and is disbarred for not practicing evidence-based medicine. Jail comes under investigation for their choice to hire the doctor (who ostensibly lacked the red flags to prevent his hiring). This is how the system works. It’s not like you can know which doctors are the bad apples before malpractice l…
”I see no problem here. Kid should sue and win.”
If there were no problem the kid would have nothing to sue over.
If your computer crashes but your backups work, you still have a problem.
This is the backup system working.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given that nobody seems to be able to account for his decision, it seems like maybe he should be in prison. If somebody assaults my testicles and renders me infertile, that is an extremely serious crime; this doctor may well have done the equivalent (along with completely destroying the boy mentally) with the stroke of a pen.
Came here ready to be horrified at the gender paranoia living under the surface of HN, was actually surprised with how reasonable everyone was. Except this comment. None of those symptoms (infertility, "complete mental destruction" or, heh, "assault on the testicles") are alleged here. He got an inappropriate drug, possibly punitively. And that's horrifying enough without painting figurative spectres of the unimagina…
It's not "paranoia" if the subject of the gender-bending either a) was not aware or b) was being held in a state funded institution and otherwise had no intention of "transitioning" to the opposite gender...
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Came here ready to be horrified at the gender paranoia living under the surface of HN, was actually surprised with how reasonable everyone was. Except this comment. None of those symptoms (infertility, "complete mental destruction" or, heh, "assault on the testicles") are alleged here. He got an inappropriate drug, possibly punitively. And that's horrifying enough without painting figurative spectres of the unimagina…
You did not read the complete details of the case (or frankly, even read the comment you're replying to). The dose was large enough to give him gynecomastia, which the other inmates bullied him for, and for which he will require surgery. His father reports that his son's personality is completely different, he is now a total shut-in. > He got an inappropriate drug He was injected† with non-indicated (as in, there is…
> He was injected with non-indicated contradictory sex hormones during adolescence and under duress; I don't know why you're downplaying this
I'm not downplaying this at all. It's you who are boosting your interpretation because of "assault on the testicles", "mental destruction", "sex hormone", and other things that tell me what you're really upset about is his masculinity and not his well being.
No, I don't think this is any worse than had he gotten an equivalently dangerous drug (say, fentanyl for sedation, which has also been alleged in juvenile detention facilities IIRC). And I'm point out the fact that you do is... unseemly.