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TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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Post by kortilla »

ahelwer wrote: post #227
plandis wrote: post #225

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Why live in the US if you dislike it so much? Why are you willing to live in a “dumpster fire”?

Currently: high salary and partner is in medical residency for the next number of years. After the only candidate who actually wanted to fix your ridiculous healthcare system dropped out of the presidential primary, my desire to continue living here has dropped precipitously. I'll probably end up moving back to Canada before long, or some other country that doesn't literally drive you slowly insane.

Curious, as a high salary earner, you must have good health coverage. Do you still feel that the Canadian healthcare system with it’s infamous delays, etc is better?

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Post by greatjack613 »

euix wrote: post #116

The founder of SMIC on the mainland is actually Taiwanese and a former TSMC executive. Loyalties cut across the strait both ways, westerners overemphasis attachment to values and ideology over bloodlines and ancestry. It's true for some but not for others. There are quite a lot of foreign engineers working on the mainland, especially Taiwanese engineers. If you are a industry vet or got some kind of special talent yo…

This piece smells like ccp propaganda. Read the above after considering those muslims who are chained in a ccp re-education center in china.

@Dang can you investigate this. I feel like the ccp is directly targeting hacker news to spread misinformation. Very scary.

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Post by drozycki »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #177
narrator wrote: post #134

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Also, if you are a billionaire the government can take everything away from that person in the blink of an eye if decides it doesn't like what that person says. In the west there are far more protections and due process rights.

If you're a billionaire, yes. If you're a person of color of not so great means, education etc. in the U.S. from a somewhat infamous area like Chicago, am not so sure. Just see the ongoing protests right now.

The intersection between South side Chicago resident and semiconductor expert is vanishingly small. Those who grow up in a disaffected part of the US and go on to study EE or CS do so through a US college opportunity which will funnel them into a US semiconductor job where they will be treated better than the treatment dark skinned people get in China. It’s common for restaurants in major Chinese cities to have “No Black” signs in their windows as a “COVID measure”, for example. https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/05/05/china-covid-19-discrimin...

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Post by SECProto »

thefounder wrote: post #216
pm90 wrote: post #188

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The US is neither a stable democracy (incredible levels of partisanship and voter suppression) nor does it have an independent judiciary (justices even in SCOTUS mostly vote around party lines on issues of voting ie power). The most popular media network is Fox News which is openly subservient to the President. The uptick or racism is not minor either. Racism has been embedded in the American way of life and the figh…

You don't know what you are talking about until you live in a communist country. Just making a joke at the wrong time about the "emperor" could put you in jail for a long time. U.S has its flaws but you can't compare it with China. See how the minorities are treated there(i.e the muslims) and the talk about racism in the US

Don't make a bomb joke in a US airport either!

They weren't comparing the US to China, they were explaining the flaws with American democracy/judiciary/media. The US is not a shining beacon to be held up in those categories compared to eg New Zealand/Germany (proportional representation), Denmark (judicial independence - the US doesn't crack the top ten[1]), or most of the rest of the West (see how far you have to scroll in press freedom rankings to find the US [2] - they have very weak media ownership rules, and while the media is free from a lot of govt limitations, it's free to be biased and partisan as hell)

Or just watch the opening from the Newsroom. [3]

[1] https://worldjusticeproject.org/sites/default/files/images/2...

[2] https://rsf.org/en/ranking_table

[3] https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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Post by jcranmer »

actuator wrote: post #215
jcranmer wrote: post #207

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Russia, as an ailing/former superpower, is quite sensitive to foreign incursions into its sphere of influence, especially the former USSR. Its wars against Ukraine and Georgia were motivated in large part by the fact that said countries were maneuvering closer to NATO and the West, for example. Conflict between Russia and China over expanding Chinese influence in Central Asia (given Chinese investment into infrastruc…

I think Russia might be fine with those considering they themselves[1] are part of China's flagship BRI project. Didn't Russia and China settle their border differences in early 2000s?[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_of_the_Belt_a... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Russia_border#Po...

> I think Russia might be fine with those considering they themselves[1] are part of China's flagship BRI project.

I can see that changing quite quickly if there's evidence of a political shift in Central Asia that disfavors Russia. Say a new Turkmeni strongman decides to start his foreign trips by visiting Beijing and doesn't call on Russia for a few years. Or a Putin-successor with flagging popularity sees being more combative here as an easy way to boost popularity (much as the Crimean annexation was driven in part by Putin attempting to improve his support)--although targeting Western country is more likely here.

> Didn't Russia and China settle their border differences in early 2000s?

The lack of existing border disputes doesn't mean that the population accepts the border. Take Alsace-Lorraine--the border was never a live dispute, but France and Germany sure saw fit to switch it to their side every opportunity in the early 20th century. The Chinese have their own self-image as being a nation unjustly carved up and tormented by foreign powers, and the current border is seen as being one of those examples [1].

To be clear: I don't see any of these flashpoints as likely; I'm just pointing out that there is a split between Russia and China that could lead to a war, and that war between any two of Russia/China/USA is plausible.

[1] https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2100228/c...

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Post by kortilla »

ahelwer wrote: post #218
fermienrico wrote: post #209

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> One big benefit of living there is you won't be bombed by the US military, I guess. US Military bombs Canadians living in Canada? I didn't know, source?

Pretty easy to imagine this happening to control access to fresh water & arable land as climate change progresses. The corn belt is shifting north.

Fresh water doesn’t come from Canada for most of the US. Additionally, it’s not nearly to the point of being a war-worthy resource. There would be plenty of water in California if farmers just paid for it the same way everyone else does.

California grows a lot of water-expensive crops (e.g. almonds) because legacy farmers don’t pay anything near what residents, commercial, or new farmers do. That would rebalance quickly and obviate the need for any invasion if we just dumped wasteful “water rights” and instead priced water like any other rivalrous good (e.g. govt auctions).

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Post by drozycki »

actuator wrote: post #139
systemvoltage wrote: post #127

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This doesn’t make sense. > On the mainland if you are a leading expert in this field or that, or belong to specific establishments (such as public security or state security) you cannot exit the country without permission from higher up the food chain. That alone will be enough to deter people from moving to China for even 10x salary. Getting locked into an insane Han-supremacy regime is walking into the dragon’s mou…

Some intellectuals would be attracted to principles which aren't there in PRC and might not go but not everyone. Like OP mentioned, for some creating an impact at an scale that is possible inside China might be attractive enough. Also, as long as you toe the CCP line I doubt they would be making life difficult for you. At worst, you will be free to travel within China and possibly live a very comfortable life there.…

The problem is that you can’t trust any CCP promise when there is no rule of law. What’s to stop them from paying you less than you earned abroad and simply denying you an exit visa once you arrive? They would probably treat you well at first so that you can tell your friends still overseas that the deal is good. But once they have their talent then they don’t have a reason to keep treating you like a king.

Re: TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

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Post by ahelwer »

kortilla wrote: post #231
ahelwer wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently: high salary and partner is in medical residency for the next number of years. After the only candidate who actually wanted to fix your ridiculous healthcare system dropped out of the presidential primary, my desire to continue living here has dropped precipitously. I'll probably end up moving back to Canada before long, or some other country that doesn't literally drive you slowly insane.

Curious, as a high salary earner, you must have good health coverage. Do you still feel that the Canadian healthcare system with it’s infamous delays, etc is better?

Basically: yes, absolutely. Canadians in general love their healthcare and my personal experience with it has been nothing but positive. My frustration with American healthcare is augmented by how much better I know it can be. I pay $500/month for shit-tier health insurance here and actually using the healthcare costs even more money!

Most of the drawbacks you've heard about Canadian healthcare have been promulgated by the many many entities whose pockets are lined by this idiotic system continuing to grind forward.

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Post by tomp »

joe_the_user wrote: post #219
narrator wrote: post #134

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Also, if you are a billionaire the government can take everything away from that person in the blink of an eye if decides it doesn't like what that person says. In the west there are far more protections and due process rights.

In China, even a billionaire can be crushed by the state - for corruption, for being a power rival or for speaking out against state policy. In the US, a certain level of person has nearly carte blanche against scandal, against being accused of crimes or pursuing pathological policy positions. Of course, in the US, a small person's life can be snuffed out if they annoy the wrong cop and their life can be made miserab…

Oh come on man (woman?), this comment is completely disingenuous. You're comparing 2 completely different things.

Is US / the West fair? Not by a long shot. Tons of shitty stuff happening, from George Floyd, to Harvey Weinstein, to Jeffrey Epstein, to Julian Assange. But at least we know about them.

But compared to China? You won't even hear about the "small person's life". I'm sure life in China can be great, unless you're Muslim, or Buddhist / Tibetan, or Falun Gong, or Canadian, or ...

I don't know about you, but for me, there's no question which of these systems I'd prefer to live under. Even if I were black! (Notify me when China gets a black president.)

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