TSMC plans to halt chip supplies to Huawei in 2 months

Post by coliveira » Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 8:37 PM UTC

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The question for me is twofold. First, will isolating China from the US and it's client states actually do anything to make the CCP act in a way that will respect human rights more? I think it is pretty clear that won't be the case. Second of all, is the entity that stands to benefit actually going to be better for human rights? In this case it pretty much is a zero-sum game. This is a bit more debatable, but I don't…

> I don't think that if the US won this Cold War against China the situation for human rights in the world will become any better. That's true, but you need to contrast it with the other outcome - if China wins, human rights everywhere are very likely to become much worse . That itself is a really good reason to support the US / West.

Post by codekansas » Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 8:39 PM UTC

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Not sure why you’re being downvoted. What you said is factually correct. Like 3000+ anti Trump stories on NYTimes. Try that in China?

That's fair, on the other hand, is China semiregularly bombing hospitals in the Middle East? You can cherry-pick certain facts to suit you either way. As for "free press", the U.S. has the appearance of free press that is shockingly uniform on issues of war for example, controlled by very few entities in total.

Post by mytailorisrich » Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 8:39 PM UTC

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Interesting, had never thought from that angle, especially since Russia and China for most part seem chummy. But in reality, they are neighbors and China has (or is in the process of) replacing Russia as the #2 power. So, while US has a lot to be careful for, it does indeed make sense that Russia has a more immediate threat. If China becomes more powerful, it will start flexing muscle as the Russia-China border also,…

I don't think that theory is as true as you believe. China ceded a whole lot of territory to Russia without too much of a fuss. The whole of Mongolia was part of Qing, and they gave that up. Dittobfor Vladivostok. China's border disputes with India was created by the British, who just draw a line somewhere without consent. China offered to draw turn the Line of Actual Control into the official border, which means Chi…

Post by dirtyid » Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 8:42 PM UTC

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I don't think that theory is as true as you believe. China ceded a whole lot of territory to Russia without too much of a fuss. The whole of Mongolia was part of Qing, and they gave that up. Dittobfor Vladivostok. China's border disputes with India was created by the British, who just draw a line somewhere without consent. China offered to draw turn the Line of Actual Control into the official border, which means Chi…

The PRC recognised Mongolia because it is not in a strategic location and because it needed the USSR. Contrast with the ROC (Taiwan), which officially still includes it as far as I know although it treats it as an independent country in practice.

Post by GekkePrutser » Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 8:45 PM UTC

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The founder of SMIC on the mainland is actually Taiwanese and a former TSMC executive. Loyalties cut across the strait both ways, westerners overemphasis attachment to values and ideology over bloodlines and ancestry. It's true for some but not for others. There are quite a lot of foreign engineers working on the mainland, especially Taiwanese engineers. If you are a industry vet or got some kind of special talent yo…

Other than the money, you also need to count in the fact that as an Asian/Chinese you are not really that secure/free in the US especially now with a president saying Chinese Virus all the time.