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U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Post by DevKoala »

ralmidani wrote: post #58

I detest Trump (voted for Clinton) and most, if not all, senior members of his administration, including Barr. But that doesn't prevent me from ultimately being OK with some of their statements/actions, even if they're all for the wrong reasons. The regime in China represents evil on a scale that is probably unprecedented in Earth's history, and anything that can stop or slow its world domination should be welcomed o…

I feel the same as you. I am also an immigrant that came to the USA escaping a country where people were suffering after decades of oppression and a string of socialist dictatorships. Seeing the actions of the CCP being normalized and defended in the USA concerns me a lot.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Post by Nasrudith »

mooseburger wrote: post #54
okareaman wrote: post #39

I see the East Coast power centers having waning influence on the Pacific Rim states of the West Coast, who are uniquely positioned to work with Asian countries

I see that the global center of capital is continuing its millenia long westward migration. Past the US west coast, and into China. From Prometheus Rising: > Brooks Adams also noted that centralized capital (the accumulation of wealth in the hands of a few inter-related families) seems to have been moving steadily West throughout recorded history. The first major accumulations are to be found in Sumer; the center of…

I think the mechanism behind that is a sort of "colonial expansion" essentially where the newer area of development and wealth have less legacy, regulatory capture, and less sunk costs into the status quo similar to general anti-cannabalization of old and large companies falling behind. That and other forms of consolidation of power to slow the overall systems down.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Post by DevKoala »

justinzollars wrote: post #63
DevKoala wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Employing your line of thought - noone should condemn anything unless they condemn everything antithetical to their principals/views. Yes, it is called hypocrisy. The individual in question has a powerful speech platform due to his role. Such power should be used responsibly. Moreover, why aren’t statements against the USA government harmful to businesses? Because we have free speech. We should protect it, and deno…

Steering this back to Google's decision to pull out of China after exploits - the Tech Industry has expressed views that have cost it significant amounts of revenue. We've fought back unlike other industries.

True, the individuals that stopped dragonfly are commendable. However, that was not all of Google.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Post by atomi »

cpr wrote: post #55
scarface74 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flynn admitted lying. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/defense/4217...

Only because he was pressured to, to save himself and his son financially. This is an incredible scandal which didn't come to light since the DOJ dropped the case against him. The prosecutors colluded with his own law firm to deny him justice. This has all come out since Syndey Powell took his case.

Do you have a reference to your claims?

According to this, Judge Sullivan rejected the assertions of FBI entrapment and prosecutorial malfeasance:

> Similar to Horowitz’s findings, the court ruling undercut arguments that the FBI investigation or Justice Department prosecution of Flynn was unjustified or improperly handled.

> Refuting Flynn’s claims that he was misled into unwittingly pleading guilty to charges, Sullivan wrote that it was undisputed that Flynn told the same lies to the FBI, Vice President Pence and senior White House officials, who repeated them to the American public, leading to his firing in February 2017.

> “The sworn statements of Mr. Flynn and his former counsel belie his new claims of innocence and his new assertions that he was pressured into pleading guilty to making materially false statements to the FBI,” Sullivan wrote.

...

> “Arguably, you sold your country out,” Sullivan told Flynn during Flynn’s initially scheduled sentencing hearing, on Dec. 18, 2018. Sullivan cited Flynn’s admissions that he hid the substance of talks with Kislyak and lied when he said he did not know the extent of the Turkish government's involvement in work his firm had obtained and when he claimed an op-ed he wrote for the Turkish president’s benefit was done at his own initiative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/michael-fl...

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Post by unethical_ban »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #72

Multinational corporations have no loyalty to anything except their shareholders. Politicians should not feign surprise when they do not align with national interest.

That's only because they choose to. The "Fiduciary obligation to shareholders" thing is not only wrong, but it isn't the way a system needs to work.

A corporation, which is a legal entity that owns capital, production and services, is composed of people. Those people could use the powers of the corporation to advance the well being of its community.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Post by joncrane »

cpr wrote: post #55
scarface74 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flynn admitted lying. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/defense/4217...

Only because he was pressured to, to save himself and his son financially. This is an incredible scandal which didn't come to light since the DOJ dropped the case against him. The prosecutors colluded with his own law firm to deny him justice. This has all come out since Syndey Powell took his case.

Do you have a source for this?

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Post by smileypete »

The best defence for Taiwan against China is to be an indispensible trading partner. Once China is self sufficient in IC fab. then increasingly aggressive moves against Taiwan could be more likely. I fear for Taiwan in the long term.

US foreign policy often turns out to be short sighted.

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Post by bediger4000 »

The US Attorney General gives a lot of indicators of corruption. At the very least, the current US Presidential administration gives a lot of indications of unfairly favoring some companies over others. Why should we believe the US Attorney General on this?

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

Shivetya wrote: post #5

They need to be called out. The amount of virtue signaling these companies do in the US does not excuse their actions elsewhere. This is not confined to the US either, countries in other parts of the world will engage in actions for the Chinese government they would not do at home or without great public fanfare about how they are against it.

These companies are putting up quotes like:

"Silence is not an option" and

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"

While happily doing business with the CCP, and keeping mum about Chinese human rights abuses.

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