They need to be called out. The amount of virtue signaling these companies do in the US does not excuse their actions elsewhere. This is not confined to the US either, countries in other parts of the world will engage in actions for the Chinese government they would not do at home or without great public fanfare about how they are against it.
U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”
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#12What it really comes down to is determining if we are doing the Cold War thing or not. To many of us, the cold war is over, and the other 300 years of rolling the nation state concept across the world is over too. As it is very easy to operate in a borderless global economy - at least between major economic unions - if you are privileged enough. If you absolutely need people to pick a side again, just say so. Otherwi…
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#14Original title: "Attorney General Barr accuses Hollywood, Big Tech of collaborating with China"
But it also doesn't make him any less of an asshole -- Barr is a shady character.
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#15What it really comes down to is determining if we are doing the Cold War thing or not. To many of us, the cold war is over, and the other 300 years of rolling the nation state concept across the world is over too. As it is very easy to operate in a borderless global economy - at least between major economic unions - if you are privileged enough. If you absolutely need people to pick a side again, just say so. Otherwi…
The problem is, if you think you’re not in a Cold War while the other guy thinks you are. Before you realize it, it’s already too late.
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#16The NBA on the other hand. I love Steve Kerr. He tweets daily about Trump and how he abuses human rights, but ask him about HK and he gets quite really quick. If a man that rich is afraid to say something - thats a tremendous amount of power. I just don't see this type influence on the tech industry.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
We opened completely free trade to China so businesses could cut labor costs decades ago. It's just built into our system. What did everyone expect? You're absolutely right that this is another red scare. It's honestly reminiscent of post 9/11 domestic support of the majority of USA population to bomb the middle east. You're not even allowed to talk about China in US society anymore unless you're furious with rage fo…
I'd like to try an experiment where China ends the ongoing slavery and genocides within its borders and let's see if there's less rage.
We ally with regressive states like Saudi Arabia and formerly places like nuclear apartheid South Africa. Only protests and rebellions move the needle on how shitty the government is here.
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#18What it really comes down to is determining if we are doing the Cold War thing or not. To many of us, the cold war is over, and the other 300 years of rolling the nation state concept across the world is over too. As it is very easy to operate in a borderless global economy - at least between major economic unions - if you are privileged enough. If you absolutely need people to pick a side again, just say so. Otherwi…
The problem is, if you think you’re not in a Cold War while the other guy thinks you are. Before you realize it, it’s already too late.
I mean, that's exactly what is going on.
Hollywood and big tech accessing all trade routes available as formerly marxist parts of the world turn out to be pretty good at market based economies and rival the size of the always-capitalist markets, with growth potential for much more.
If some other thing needs to happen, the executive branch and Congress better say so because it obviously doesn't matter, and there is an art to dealing with China, just like there is an art to dealing with any market. Anyone thinking otherwise was never really playing the game to begin with, they are stuck in an antiquated protectionist business model in their local market.
It doesn't really matter how anyone feels about that, what I described is what's happening.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd like to try an experiment where China ends the ongoing slavery and genocides within its borders and let's see if there's less rage.
I'd like to see an experiment where the united states stops killing people at the border, just letting people in prison die from COVID, and attacking peaceful protestors with military equipment. See how that works? Let us not forget the founding of the country was based on genocide and slavery. We ally with regressive states like Saudi Arabia and formerly places like nuclear apartheid South Africa. Only protests and…
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#20What are some examples of positive impressions of CCP that people possess now, but not before the tech companies started working with China?
It seems in US at least, more people are hating China. More people protest against CCP.
If China is actually trying to exert influence, their exertion seems to be quite counter-productive.