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U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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They need to be called out. The amount of virtue signaling these companies do in the US does not excuse their actions elsewhere. This is not confined to the US either, countries in other parts of the world will engage in actions for the Chinese government they would not do at home or without great public fanfare about how they are against it.

What is the difference between virtue signaling and marketing when a corporation is doing it?

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What it really comes down to is determining if we are doing the Cold War thing or not. To many of us, the cold war is over, and the other 300 years of rolling the nation state concept across the world is over too. As it is very easy to operate in a borderless global economy - at least between major economic unions - if you are privileged enough. If you absolutely need people to pick a side again, just say so. Otherwi…

The problem is, if you think you’re not in a Cold War while the other guy thinks you are. Before you realize it, it’s already too late.

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#13
Conveniently left out are all the Republican-friendly companies and industries which do the same (and more). Automobile, equipment manufacturers, aircrafts, fast food, clothing, sports leagues...everyone bows down to money. This is the obvious result of our capitalist system. What's the point in calling out a handful of tech companies?

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post #12

What it really comes down to is determining if we are doing the Cold War thing or not. To many of us, the cold war is over, and the other 300 years of rolling the nation state concept across the world is over too. As it is very easy to operate in a borderless global economy - at least between major economic unions - if you are privileged enough. If you absolutely need people to pick a side again, just say so. Otherwi…

The problem is, if you think you’re not in a Cold War while the other guy thinks you are. Before you realize it, it’s already too late.

To be clear, the Chinese plainly think the US is a rival, and have been pushing on things harder than usual to test what the global response is.

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I'm not sure this is true. Many tech companies I've worked for in the past have had a lot of trouble operating in China. Some don't even try.

The NBA on the other hand. I love Steve Kerr. He tweets daily about Trump and how he abuses human rights, but ask him about HK and he gets quite really quick. If a man that rich is afraid to say something - thats a tremendous amount of power. I just don't see this type influence on the tech industry.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We opened completely free trade to China so businesses could cut labor costs decades ago. It's just built into our system. What did everyone expect? You're absolutely right that this is another red scare. It's honestly reminiscent of post 9/11 domestic support of the majority of USA population to bomb the middle east. You're not even allowed to talk about China in US society anymore unless you're furious with rage fo…

I'd like to try an experiment where China ends the ongoing slavery and genocides within its borders and let's see if there's less rage.

I'd like to see an experiment where the united states stops killing people at the border, just letting people in prison die from COVID, and attacking peaceful protestors with military equipment. See how that works? Let us not forget the founding of the country was based on genocide and slavery.

We ally with regressive states like Saudi Arabia and formerly places like nuclear apartheid South Africa. Only protests and rebellions move the needle on how shitty the government is here.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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post #12

What it really comes down to is determining if we are doing the Cold War thing or not. To many of us, the cold war is over, and the other 300 years of rolling the nation state concept across the world is over too. As it is very easy to operate in a borderless global economy - at least between major economic unions - if you are privileged enough. If you absolutely need people to pick a side again, just say so. Otherwi…

The problem is, if you think you’re not in a Cold War while the other guy thinks you are. Before you realize it, it’s already too late.

or its extremely lucrative while people stuck in the 80s aren't even considering tapping into those other markets in a self-limiting philosophy.

I mean, that's exactly what is going on.

Hollywood and big tech accessing all trade routes available as formerly marxist parts of the world turn out to be pretty good at market based economies and rival the size of the always-capitalist markets, with growth potential for much more.

If some other thing needs to happen, the executive branch and Congress better say so because it obviously doesn't matter, and there is an art to dealing with China, just like there is an art to dealing with any market. Anyone thinking otherwise was never really playing the game to begin with, they are stuck in an antiquated protectionist business model in their local market.

It doesn't really matter how anyone feels about that, what I described is what's happening.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to try an experiment where China ends the ongoing slavery and genocides within its borders and let's see if there's less rage.

I'd like to see an experiment where the united states stops killing people at the border, just letting people in prison die from COVID, and attacking peaceful protestors with military equipment. See how that works? Let us not forget the founding of the country was based on genocide and slavery. We ally with regressive states like Saudi Arabia and formerly places like nuclear apartheid South Africa. Only protests and…

Two things can be true at the same time.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

#20
What are the "influences" though?

What are some examples of positive impressions of CCP that people possess now, but not before the tech companies started working with China?

It seems in US at least, more people are hating China. More people protest against CCP.

If China is actually trying to exert influence, their exertion seems to be quite counter-productive.

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