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Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Well, the idea is less financial gain and more punishment/retribution. You don't disappear/kill people in such a manner unless you want to send a message of some sort. It's possible that he might have taken an investment from someone that does not take failure/underdelivery as an answer. Or that Gokada's continued existence pissed off someone that intended the company to go under. It could also possibly be much more…

Please don't bad mouth Nigeria. This case is not yet fully understood and we can't make any conclusions yet.

My intention is not to bad mouth Nigeria - I did, quite literally, say that it's entirely speculation and that the case might very well have nothing whatsoever to do with the country (and even if it involves Gokada, the aggrieved party is not necessarily Nigerian).

Regarding infrastructure, my point is that it's far easier for someone to disappear from the eye of law enforcement here than in many other countries.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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There's a qualitative difference between wanting to live in a bunker, and having the front door key to my house be on the Internet for anyone with a blank and a bastard file to copy in half an hour. Not that penthouse problems will ever be my problems, granted. But let's not be too absurd here.

If you have that kind of money you can build a concrete wall with a vault door in front of the elevator.

It seems the victim had a very comfortable situation, but the building itself don't seem to require "that kind of money".

Per the article:

> ...found inside a $2 million Lower East Side condo...

It may sound absurd for folks outside of NY (or Bay Area), but $2M barely gets you a 2/2 in Manhattan these days [1].

[1] https://newconstructionmanhattan.com/nyc-apartments-by-price...

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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I knew Fahim, met him several times and hung out with him when he was investing in Pathao and HackHouse in Bangladesh. He was the type of person who would hang out with you having beers and you'd be shooting the shit about an idea for a startup and he'd end up going home, writing up the code all night and send you a link in the morning with a registered operating version of the site. He dealt with a lot of the same issues of shady regulators, broken ecosystem back then in Bangladesh but having his roots from there may have made things easier to navigate. Uggh I still can't believe how gruesome this is. I'm devastated for his family, the world is a horrible place a lot of times.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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If you have that kind of money you can build a concrete wall with a vault door in front of the elevator.

It seems the victim had a very comfortable situation, but the building itself don't seem to require " that kind of money ". Per the article: > ...found inside a $2 million Lower East Side condo... It may sound absurd for folks outside of NY (or Bay Area), but $2M barely gets you a 2/2 in Manhattan these days [1]. [1] https://newconstructionmanhattan.com/nyc-apartments-by-price...

>>It may sound absurd for folks outside of NY (or Bay Area), but $2M barely gets you a 2/2 in Manhattan these days

$2M USD can buy an older stock 3-bed 2-bath or "classic six"[1] co-op apartment in Manhattan.[2] Anything north of $2M for a 2-bed 2-bath is more likely to be in an expensive neighborhood, an explicitly expensive/luxury building or new (and likely luxury) condo unit building. This last category is pertinent to NYC real-estate because most apartment inventory is co-op compared to condo.[3]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Six

[2] https://streeteasy.com/3-bedroom-apartments-for-sale/manhatt...

[3] https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/realestate/getting-starte...

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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There's a lot of speculation going on here, and I do not think it helps. I feel incredibly sorry for his family, especially his sister. I cannot even imagine what it would be like to walk in on a family member murdered in such a brutal fashion.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Okay, to play devil's advocate for a moment. What is there to gain financially from killing him, if his previous business was gutted by regulatory changes? The killer was evidently belonging to a highly capable skillset, and I'm extrapolating that they very nearly got away with his body in tow, and nobody would've been the wiser. Could they not have kidnapped him and ransomed the company? If there's financial qualms…

> nobody would've been the wiser. Except they would have footage of two people going into the apartment (one person apparently wearing a ninja outfit), and only one person leaving. That could have been a tipoff that something was askew.

Are you inferring "ninja outfit" from the article description? Because it vaguely mentions a black suit and face mask. And I'm not entirely sure "face mask" doesn't just mean a now-standard-in-a-pandemic mask type.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Please don't bad mouth Nigeria. This case is not yet fully understood and we can't make any conclusions yet.

My intention is not to bad mouth Nigeria - I did, quite literally, say that it's entirely speculation and that the case might very well have nothing whatsoever to do with the country (and even if it involves Gokada, the aggrieved party is not necessarily Nigerian). Regarding infrastructure, my point is that it's far easier for someone to disappear from the eye of law enforcement here than in many other countries.

Please check global number of missing people and kidnapping cases, use it to rightly place your country. That you have weak institutions don't mean that your country is world theater of crime.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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They 'may be', but they're not. They are on opposing sides of a huge regional political divide, and pretty much in cold war against eachother.

I would argue that in the ME everyone is and is not in cold war with everyone else, at any given time. Erdogan and the Saudis, for example, both helped ISIS... until they didn't. There isn't a fundamental ideological divide, everyone is just jockeying for a few more square-meters of this or that.

The jockeying isn't for some square meter of land. It's for influence over the muslim world.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Turkey has the second largest military in NATO (after US) and by quite a margin

Turkey leadership may well be sympathetic to the Saudis to some extent. Freedom of press doesn't exactly seem like their biggest concern, and they have an authoritarian Muslim ruler.

Turkey has gone downhill in the last five years due to the actions of Turkish leadership. I no longer see them returning to the path of democracy sadly. The Trump administration are saints in comparison.
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