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Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by noah_buddy »

freshhawk wrote: post #318
solidasparagus wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Utterly untrue. Clearly you've never lived anywhere dangerous - bars are a necessity.

What are you saying? That privileged suburb experiences growing up can't be extrapolated for all people? Not sure that kind of talk is allowed here, HN feels very strongly about how all knowledge can be extrapolated from first principles if you grew up in a nice enough suburb.

It's my pleasure to point out the technicality that the original person to mention breaking windows never specified which windows that were being broken. Maybe they're breaking into a locksmith shop and then breaking into your house?

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Post by toyg »

johnyzee wrote: post #266
codebolt wrote: post #222

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Turkey leadership may well be sympathetic to the Saudis to some extent. Freedom of press doesn't exactly seem like their biggest concern, and they have an authoritarian Muslim ruler.

They 'may be', but they're not. They are on opposing sides of a huge regional political divide, and pretty much in cold war against eachother.

I would argue that in the ME everyone is and is not in cold war with everyone else, at any given time. Erdogan and the Saudis, for example, both helped ISIS... until they didn't.

There isn't a fundamental ideological divide, everyone is just jockeying for a few more square-meters of this or that.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by vmception »

leephillips wrote: post #267
mlyle wrote: post #225

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It just says an "electric saw". Probably a reciprocating saw or something. You'd get even more attention from neighbors (who apparently heard a violent altercation, and didn't call police-- instead calling his sister??) using a chain saw.

The part about not calling the police is not that surprising. You call the NYPD if you would like everyone in the area shot and drugs and guns planted on the bodies. Otherwise, they're not very useful.

New York’s finest protect New York’s richest though.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by toyg »

mlyle wrote: post #226
classified wrote: post #4

So police don't even know the cause of death, or anything else, but they do know they have video of the "killer"? I wish I were clairvoyant like this, but otherwise, may I never come under investigation from those people.

So, a guy goes into his apartment, dies in a violent altercation, and you have the video of the last person who entered and left. The video even includes some initial violence. It's a pretty reasonable assumption that this is video of the killer. But, I guess, he could have just struggled a bit, left, and then Spiderman came in through the window and finished the job.

That's certainly what veteran news-editor J. Jonah Jameson would say!

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Post by awb »

glenstein wrote: post #325
awb wrote: post #253

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Doesn't seem to be the issue in this case: > One of the law enforcement officials said a surveillance camera had captured video of Mr. Saleh in the building’s elevator with another person who was wearing a black suit and black mask. On the video, the elevator door opens and Mr. Saleh goes into the apartment, the official said. The masked person follows directly behind him, and the two immediately start to struggle, t…

Is that quote from a different article? I'm either not seeing it in the article or my ctrl+F powers are failing me.

It's from the NYT article originally associated with this post: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/nyregion/dismembered-body...

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Post by baddox »

josephcsible wrote: post #297
esoterica wrote: post #284

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I really don't think so? It's an equally serious crime either way.

You're less likely to get caught using a key than breaking a window.

It’s also just much easier. That’s why the owners use the key instead of breaking a window.

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Post by melq »

filleduchaos wrote: post #132
joekrill wrote: post #124

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But this specific article makes no mention about it.

Personally I think it common sense that an out-of-state, local paper (the article is from ABC 7 Chicago) can hardly be taken as a primary source in a developing crime story - hence why I said "news coverage" and gave details.

Local papers are just about the best possible news source you can have. Not to mention they are the actual primary sources that your nebulous 'news coverage' would be relying on.

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Post by [deleted] »

filleduchaos wrote: post #126
classified wrote: post #121

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"Suspect" is OK, but "killer"? Offering conclusions before a proper investigation has been conducted isn't police work, it's gossip.

The actual police haven't even ruled it a homicide yet. I'd suggest reading a range of news coverage and not taking the paraphrased words in an article that's itself a summary of coverage from elsewhere as literal quotes.

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Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by glenstein »

fouc wrote: post #329
glenstein wrote: post #325

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Is that quote from a different article? I'm either not seeing it in the article or my ctrl+F powers are failing me.

yeah, dang mentions the link was changed a couple of times

Thanks. By the time I got here dang's comments were buried on pg 2.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by monoideism »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #207
monoideism wrote: post #157

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> Neither of the deceased were tech entrepreneurs, and, unsurprisingly, this did not make Hacker News, Why did you expect? This is a community of programmers and tech entrepreneurs. We get articles all the time on the front page about deceased programmers, computer scientists, and tech entrepreneurs. This poor guy was a tech entrepreneur.

You removed from the OP quote: > nor more than a whisper on the national media circus. I presume you haven't heard about it, either.

I was addressing his specific insinuation about HN. If this was just about national media, why even mention HN otherwise in that comment?

No, the clear implication was that there was some kind of double standard in HN here.

I'm not addressing the rest of his comment, which may or may not be true. But the first part is clearly misleading, or at best uncharitable.

Finally, the full comment is available for all to see by looking up exactly a quarter screen. I didn't "remove" anything-I pulled the quote pertaining to the issue that concerned me.

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