Why is the Fessenheim 2 nuclear power plant closing in France?

Post by Felz » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 9:16 PM UTC

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #145

freeflight wrote: post #12

It's weird of the article gives plenty of direct citations from nuclear operators, while at the same time acting like French 40+ year old fission tech doesn't have any issues [0] or sustainability problems, and how the French could dare to shut down one of their first reactors. Particularly in the context that most discussions surrounding nuclear fission power generation lead with "modern designs and reactors being s…

Fessenheim nearly got out of control in 2016 when water flooded electrical equipment racks. Control of of the reactor rods was interrupted, core temperature was rising uncontrollably. Letting the control rods fall into the core via gravity didn't work anymore either. They had to emergency flood the core with Boron, which luckily worked, the first time this has happened in a western european power reactor. They assign…

Post by kubanczyk » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 9:21 PM UTC

Felz wrote: post #171

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #145

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Fessenheim nearly got out of control in 2016 when water flooded electrical equipment racks. Control of of the reactor rods was interrupted, core temperature was rising uncontrollably. Letting the control rods fall into the core via gravity didn't work anymore either. They had to emergency flood the core with Boron, which luckily worked, the first time this has happened in a western european power reactor. They assign…

Hmm, wikipedia (and the ASN used as source) seems to describe this incident a bit differently. I didn't see anything about core temperature rising uncontrollably, it's slightly inaccurate to say that control of the rods themselves was interrupted (only a positioning indicator; they could've emergency shut down the reactor with the rods if they needed to; not sure why you say the control rod failsafe didn't work), and…

Post by onli » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 9:32 PM UTC

dkural wrote: post #80

onli wrote: post #41

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You have a very focused elite building system in which the big universities creating the future members of the elite are heavily financed and influenced by pro-nuclear organizations. That goes especially for politicans, but includes engineers. The pro-nuclear propaganda repeated by the people that go through this is frightening, many of them are completely brainwashed. In no way can the ASN be really independent, as…

Can you point to any specific and concrete safety issue? (as opposed to, without any evidence, questioning the integrity of the people trying to reduce CO2 emissions by extending the lifetime of existing nuclear plants).

Post by oxfordmale » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 9:43 PM UTC

7786655 wrote: post #170

oxfordmale wrote: post #131

There is a pro nuclear power lobby that loves to trivialise toxic radio active waste. They argue that storing it in caves with clear warning signs will deter future generations from accidentally messing about with its content. They forgot historical context can be quickly lost over a few thousand years and assume there will not be a technological dark age in the future. CO2 might well introduce long term damage to th…

Why should we worry about the tiny possibility that a few people in the future will die in the unlikely event that society regresses so much that we forget how to build a Geiger counter when air pollution caused by burning coal is killing tens of millions of people a year right now?

Post by guerby » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 9:49 PM UTC

Kuinox wrote: post #97

cptskippy wrote: post #54

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Why is sensible behavior suddenly political? The owner/operator of the facility, EDF, envisaged a 40 year life for all 2nd generation reactors. That would have meant the reactor would have been shut down 2 years ago. It's in a flood zone and a 2011 commission found that it didn't have necessary redundant cooling in place should the canals around it fail. It's in a seismically active area. It's on a river over an aqui…

As stated in the article, the 40 year lifespan is a lie from 'les verts'. The facility was built for 40 year with minimal maintenance. This is not the lifespan if the facility was well maintained.