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Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by mindcrime »

mindcrime wrote: post #160
classified wrote: post #4

So police don't even know the cause of death, or anything else, but they do know they have video of the "killer"? I wish I were clairvoyant like this, but otherwise, may I never come under investigation from those people.

I wish I were clairvoyant like this, but otherwise, may I never come under investigation from those people. This is off on a little bit of a tangent, but there is an interesting point to be made, I think. I was on a jury once. Not a murder case, mind you, but the principle is the same. There was a detective from the local law enforcement agency that investigated the case, and he testified on the stand about the case…

D'oh. "glamorous" above was meant to be "glamorize". Too late to edit now, unfortunately.

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Post by Alex3917 »

mtalantikite wrote: post #233
flyingfences wrote: post #166

> The condos in the building are full-floor and the keyed elevator opens right into the apartment. Doesn't this mean that anybody with the [widely, publicly known] FDNY elevator override key can get right into the apartment? I've seen far too many physical pentesting talks (i.e. any at all) to trust a setup like that for my home in a city.

Possibly. Though the apartments I’ve been in that have elevators that open directly into the unit here in NYC have had doormen at the front entrance. Generally if you’re rich enough for that sort of setup the building is rich enough for a doorman (I’m sure there are exceptions though).

> Generally if you’re rich enough for that sort of setup the building is rich enough for a doorman

That's true for newer buildings that are purposely built to be luxury apartment buildings. But if you're living in a building that used to be an office building or a factory then it's not necessarily going to have a doorman. This applies to a lot of the old industrial buildings in SoHo, Chelsea, the meatpacking district, Union Square, etc. It's basically impossible to change where the elevator shaft of a building is after it's been built, because it's part of the structural support system of the building, so you can't just move everything around to add a lobby and front desk to the ground floor after the fact.

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Post by awb »

flyingfences wrote: post #166

> The condos in the building are full-floor and the keyed elevator opens right into the apartment. Doesn't this mean that anybody with the [widely, publicly known] FDNY elevator override key can get right into the apartment? I've seen far too many physical pentesting talks (i.e. any at all) to trust a setup like that for my home in a city.

Doesn't seem to be the issue in this case:

> One of the law enforcement officials said a surveillance camera had captured video of Mr. Saleh in the building’s elevator with another person who was wearing a black suit and black mask. On the video, the elevator door opens and Mr. Saleh goes into the apartment, the official said. The masked person follows directly behind him, and the two immediately start to struggle, the official said.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by tootie »

iso947 wrote: post #153
tootie wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is NYC. A $2M condo is not that special.

Not even in a “where do you find them that cheap” way?

Ha. $2M is definitely well above the median. Most homes are under a $1M still. Bloomberg has these interesting charts comparing the citywide median, to Astoria and Tribeca.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/property-prices/nyc/

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Post by [deleted] »

cellar_door wrote: post #188
agrocrag wrote: post #115

"Police source say a business deal gone bad is being investigated as a motive for the killing. There’s no indication that NYPD detective are eyeing past controversies involving PrankDial." Seems like some other moving pieces in play with his past startup. "The tech bro found sliced into pieces in his $2.25 million Lower East Side condo made a name for himself by creating a prank phone call app that led to the downfal…

Describing him as a "tech bro" in the first line is needlessly derogatory. Implying he deserved it. Like calling a rape victim "scantily clad." Pretty gross journalism if you ask me: designed to create outrage and drive clicks.

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Post by newacct583 »

woko wrote: post #249

It reminds me of the killing of Jamal Khashoggi ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi ), and then this appears in the article. Coincidence? > According to a 2016 blog profile, Mr. Saleh was born in Saudi Arabia, and moved with his family quite a bit before settling in Rochester, N.Y., and, later, in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.

With Khashoggi we had a clear motive for the killing, though. It's not at all clear who wanted Saleh dead, and in particular why Saudi should be involved at all. It's merely where he was born, not the target of his opinion writing (note also that per the article he's Bangladeshi ethinically, not Saudi).

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Post by dreae »

azinman2 wrote: post #246
flyingfences wrote: post #166

> The condos in the building are full-floor and the keyed elevator opens right into the apartment. Doesn't this mean that anybody with the [widely, publicly known] FDNY elevator override key can get right into the apartment? I've seen far too many physical pentesting talks (i.e. any at all) to trust a setup like that for my home in a city.

Would you have a house with windows on the street? Do you walk outside without body armor and a bullet proof vest? Get in a cab... without knowing the driver or having bullet proof glass? Society wouldn't be very fun or fruitful if we all lived in secure underground bunkers.

You can tell when someone's broken your window

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Post by zyngaro »

yardie wrote: post #174
marcinzm wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>that'd be geopolitical suicide Saudi Arabia seems to be doing fine last I checked.

Saudi Arabia carried out an extrajudicial killing in a small, neighboring state. This was carried out in the US. And for all intents and purposes could be considered an act of war against a state that has an unlimited war chest.

Turkey isn’t small in any way. It’s a regional powerhouse.

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Post by devalgo »

escape_goat wrote: post #164

Fahim Saleh was born in Saudi Arabia and was killed in a manner that "appeared professional" and then dismembered. This could easily be an atrocious crime by an individual or related to — for instance — organized crime in Nigeria, but it is sobering that one of the usual suspects when something like this happens is a state actor.

I'm not a defender of Saudi Arabia but besides him being born there how is it relevant? He does business in Africa and was educated in and lives in the US. Is there any indication he was a anti-Saudi activist? I don't see any so why should that be brought up at all?

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Post by [deleted] »

bayesbot wrote: post #218
tsimionescu wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they burn them with the drivers inside? If not, how is that comparable to killing and dismembering a human being?

Not specifically in France, but at least in Pretoria, South Africa an Uber driver's car was set on fire with him inside and he died. That's the only one where someone was burned to death in a car that I remember hearing about but there may have been other similar incidents.

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