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Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by pmart123 » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

BTCOG wrote: post #101

MeanSpirit wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that it's there to begin with implies it was noteworthy enough to include it, and the choice of including something versus not including is a value judgement. If instead the title read, "New York tech entrepreneur found decapitated wearing expensive suit", it would be more likely to strike people as odd, but isn't it essentially the same thing?

It's part of telling the story. You have to picture this is a very fancy condo, and that it had keyed elevator access directly into his apartment. This implies he likely knew and let the killer into his place. It's part of the visualization.

Why does evidence so far infer this? Potentially, he thought the killer was going to a condo unit on a different floor.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by eruci » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

I can't read this article because "abc7chicago.com wants to install and run Widevine"

As to the newsworthy debate, yes, the death of a person that is of a greater relative value to society (such as for eg a tech entrepreneur) is more newsworthy than otherwise (such as for eg a homeless person).

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by iso947 » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:15 PM UTC

tootie wrote: post #84

opencl wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poor people get murdered all the time, a rich person getting murdered is newsworthy.

This is NYC. A $2M condo is not that special.

Not even in a “where do you find them that cheap” way?

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by komali2 » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:16 PM UTC

adenozine wrote: post #37

filleduchaos wrote: post #18

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It's worth noting that there was a sudden & pretty draconian regulation passed early this year that gutted Gokada's primary business (ridesharing on motorbikes). He was very passionate in his disagreement with the government's decision. The company pivoted pretty neatly (in my opinion) to last-mile deliveries instead - the pandemic certainly helped drive demand - but currently there's morbid speculation that potentia…

Okay, to play devil's advocate for a moment. What is there to gain financially from killing him, if his previous business was gutted by regulatory changes? The killer was evidently belonging to a highly capable skillset, and I'm extrapolating that they very nearly got away with his body in tow, and nobody would've been the wiser. Could they not have kidnapped him and ransomed the company? If there's financial qualms…

> What is there to gain financially from killing him, if his previous business was gutted by regulatory changes?

Devil's devil's advocate - the motivation for the killing doesn't need to be "rational" or make sense from our perspective. It could be pathological, it could be revenge, who knows?

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by tehwebguy » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:17 PM UTC

stanfordkid wrote: post #87

What a tragedy. If this has ties to any foreign business or government entity, I truly hope that the U.S government and military forces take swift and lethal action. Sometimes I feel like this is the sort of thing where the justice system and public media just don't work... send some SEALS to knock out whoever did this. It reminds me of the type of thing that happens with central american drug lords. I wish the artic…

I mean, Stanford didn't even dial back their dealings with Saudi Arabia after MBS did the same thing to Khashoggi (and Trump used veto to sell SA billions of $ in weaponry after the fact).

Like it or not, the US is not going to do anything.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by DetroitThrow » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:17 PM UTC

huntermeyer wrote: post #143

jjj123 wrote: post #82

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There was (is?) a serial killer in LA killing homeless people with a bat in 2018/19 that got barely any news coverage.

Isn't a common practice for serial killer coverage to be limited? I thought this was intentional to not influence copy-cats and other mis/dis-information which muddy the investigation.

While withholding some details happens in murder cases, this is the first I've heard of there being voluntary editorial standards that restrict information about the murders of serial killers. In fact, you'd generally think there'd be a voluntary policy to do the opposite given their prevalence in modern media.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by monoideism » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:18 PM UTC

vkou wrote: post #130

mywittyname wrote: post #35

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If a poor person were murdered like this, it would be newsworthy. The fact that this may be a politically charged murder makes it even more newsworthy.

> If a poor person were murdered like this, it would be newsworthy. > The fact that this may be a politically charged murder makes it even more newsworthy. No, it wouldn't be. And I can tell you why. A suitcase stuffed with parts from two (recently) dismembered bodies was found on a Seattle beach two or three weeks ago. [1] Neither of the deceased were tech entrepreneurs, and, unsurprisingly, this did not make Hacker…

> Neither of the deceased were tech entrepreneurs, and, unsurprisingly, this did not make Hacker News,

Why did you expect? This is a community of programmers and tech entrepreneurs. We get articles all the time on the front page about deceased programmers, computer scientists, and tech entrepreneurs. This poor guy was a tech entrepreneur.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by kinghajj » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:19 PM UTC

jedimind wrote: post #141

kinghajj wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His family is Bangladeshi, and his startup was founded in Bangladesh. https://nypost.com/2020/07/15/who-was-fahim-saleh-the-tech-c...

He was still not born in Bangladesh nor did he live there, but he lived and grew up in America. This article didn't mention a single word of Bangladesh, it was still mentioned by the root comment merely for ideological purposes.

> He was still not born in Bangladesh nor did he live there

Sure, and all OP wrote is

> (his original country)

Though it's not 100% correct, it's easy to see how someone's family coming from there would be summarized as their "original country."

> it was still mentioned by the root comment merely for ideological purposes.

What ideology? All the OP pointed out was that this person had strong ties to Bangladesh, both in heritage in business, and that extremists from that country use the same technique for murder as this man suffered. That seems clearly like relevant context.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by davidw » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:21 PM UTC

mdszy wrote: post #39

filleduchaos wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not even from the US but I still know that a ~two million dollar home in Manhattan is far from "unnecessarily luxurious". That's just a basic if large apartment.

The article headline literally says "luxury condo".

Often, "luxury condo" means "decent place to live in a supply-constrained city".

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by mindcrime » Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 5:21 PM UTC

classified wrote: post #4

So police don't even know the cause of death, or anything else, but they do know they have video of the "killer"? I wish I were clairvoyant like this, but otherwise, may I never come under investigation from those people.

I wish I were clairvoyant like this, but otherwise, may I never come under investigation from those people.

This is off on a little bit of a tangent, but there is an interesting point to be made, I think.

I was on a jury once. Not a murder case, mind you, but the principle is the same. There was a detective from the local law enforcement agency that investigated the case, and he testified on the stand about the case and his investigation.

Now the defense attorney was a sharp guy, and he found (and seized on) every tiny little discrepancy or crack in this guy's testimony, which made this all the more glaring. The detective was a complete buffoon. I mean, calling this guy "Barney Fife" or "Officer Barbrady" would be paying him a compliment.

We sat in the jury room deliberating and were making jokes like "Man, if I ever murder anybody, I hope this guy is the one investigating me" and so on.

The point is just to say... detectives come in all grades of competence, just like anybody else. For every Sherlock Holmes there is a guy like the one I encountered. I'm not sure if a normal distribution applies, but I wouldn't be surprised. And I'm definitely not surprised when I see (apparently) silly statements come from law enforcement agencies. TV and movies glamorous the more "Sherlock Holmes'ian" type detectives, and maybe we subconsciously tend to assume that most detectives are like that as a result. But it's definitely not always the case.