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Re: Riot is now Element

#182
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No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

Somehow I hadn't made the connection that WhatsApp sounds like "What's up" until now.

Someone had to explain it to me before I got it. I still think it's a bad name.

Re: Riot is now Element

#185
I was never really aware of these products before, and I’m very interested! So I browsed over to the main site, found the pricing page and got this.

” We're busy building our pricing table & purchasing experience on mobile, for now please visit this page on your desktop.”

Um, what? I mean, I’m honestly more interested in self hosting, but this really seems like a good way to miss out on a lot of sales.

Won’t something simple suffice as a placeholder, until the larger ‘experience’ is finished? How many people have seen this when they aren’t near a desktop, only to never return?

Re: Riot is now Element

#186

Press release pro tip: sidle in what the company or app does very early in. Verging on all of the releases I read on HN don't do this but are for companies I've not heard of. So you leave knowing almost nothing about the company

This is one thing I always loved about The Economist - it didn't matter how obvious an entity might seem, they would always qualify what it is when mentioned in an article, never presuming upon their readers' knowledge, eg. "...Google, an internet search engine, ..."

- ed: typo

Re: Riot is now Element

#187
Another post on the homepage now: "Element wins deal to supply half a million licences for German education system". I was going to point out that it's a pretty generic name being used by other groups, but when I read that linked article I see it's the same Element :-D

Re: Riot is now Element

#188
post #85

No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

Secrets could have been a good ( and hilarious) name... 'let's chat in Secrets'

Re: Riot is now Element

#189
post #85

No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

You're allowed to dislike the name. I like the new name. If you're pissed about Element, you must be absolutely livid about Apple.

> If you're pissed about Element, you must be absolutely livid about Apple.

Nope. 'Apple Computer Inc.' already marketed themselves specifically first in 'computers' and that association was built over the years.

After they had success in products that weren't attached to only 'desktop/laptop computers' it made sense to remove 'Computer' from the name. The same was done for Tesla Motors Inc. to Tesla Inc.

This is more like a full blown renaming of Riot, New Vector, Modular -> Element. You need to rebuild that SEO and previous associations from scratch again.

Re: Riot is now Element

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In places like the European Union, it is illegal for example to provide subscription payments without notifying customers before payment renewal (which requires an email address).

Given that is a very complicated ordeal to do subscription payments with crypto (impossible with Bitcoin, requires transaction with custom contracts if you want to do with Ethereum), my initial implementation uses a basic pay-as-you-go account system. If you "subscribe" to my service, you need to ensure that you keep the balance positive otherwise your account gets disconnected on a failed charge.

You could show LN invoice (QR code) right in the app when that happens.
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