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Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by chris_j »

TimMontague wrote: post #48
waqf wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Circumventing that filter is easy for the user, but I don't see how it's easy for the referring website.

A referrer is not sent when following a link from a secure website (https) to a non-secure website. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-15.1.3

Thanks for the information. I had not realised that. There are still plenty of other measure that Ryanair could use, of course, in the case where there was no Referer: header, such putting some unique (and constantly changing) id into a cookie such that links from another site wouldn't have the correct id. As other have suggested, perhaps they are perfectly happy with most deep links into their site, just not from certain sites such as price comparison sites. Far be it from me to speculate about such things, of course.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by lanstein »

joshkdavies wrote: post #50

Please excuse my ignorance if these guys are now owned by Ryanair, a quick Google suggests they are not, but it looks like Jetbird (an executive jet company) did a straight copy and paste of this for term 2.v. "(v) You may not establish and/or operate links to this website without the prior written consent of Ryanair. Such consent may be withdrawn at any time at JetBird own discretion." http://www.flyjetbird.com/en/f…

You haven't met many lawyers, have you? ;)

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by joshkdavies »

lanstein wrote: post #52
joshkdavies wrote: post #50

Please excuse my ignorance if these guys are now owned by Ryanair, a quick Google suggests they are not, but it looks like Jetbird (an executive jet company) did a straight copy and paste of this for term 2.v. "(v) You may not establish and/or operate links to this website without the prior written consent of Ryanair. Such consent may be withdrawn at any time at JetBird own discretion." http://www.flyjetbird.com/en/f…

You haven't met many lawyers, have you? ;)

Not many no, but the company name of who I'm stealing from would be the first thing I Ctrl+F!

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by alex_c »

snorkel wrote: post #39
Tichy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google probably would get the permission to link to Ryanair, though. And Google has to look good in the eye of searchers. They want to find what they are looking for and don't really care about the reasons for some results to be not available.

But Google is in a unique position to quickly correct a lot of bad T&C behaviors simply by implying that having those terms may hurt the SEO of offending sites. If SEOs suspected that was part of Google's ranking process then we'd see a lot of bad T&C clauses suddenly dropped.

The phrase "Google is in a unique position to quickly correct a lot of bad [...] behaviors" sends chills down my spine.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by wtallis »

joshkdavies wrote: post #53
lanstein wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't met many lawyers, have you? ;)

Not many no, but the company name of who I'm stealing from would be the first thing I Ctrl+F!

When I hear lawyers and computers being talked about together, the first thing that comes to mind is that they tend to use WordPerfect. So, not only is it not safe to assume any level of computer savvyness, I'm not even sure that ctrl-f would be the right shortcut.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by iuytghyjuyh »

MichaelApproved wrote: post #13

Why do companies even have this clause in their T&C? What's the benefit?

In Ryanair's case they do mean it.

They basically don't allow price comparisons. Ryanair like a lot of the sleazier cheap airlines advertise very low $1 fares and then add $100 in fees to bring them back up to what their competitors are charging - they don't like sites such as Kayak being able to compare the real price you pay.

- Excluding government fees and taxes is allowed, since everybody pays the same. Ryan are famous for basically making up their entire fare from fees leaving you with no idea what you are paying until you enter your credit card

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by qntm »

waqf wrote: post #43
qntm wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because circumventing that filter is even easier than installing the filter in the first place?

Circumventing that filter is easy for the user, but I don't see how it's easy for the referring website.

From context, I assumed we were talking about users following deep links. This can be prevented technologically by the target website, and the burden of circumvention is obviously on the user.

Obviously there is no technological way to prevent "deep linking" by the referring website, because that is just creating an tag.

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