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Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by btn »

chris_j wrote: post #27

The perverse thing about terms forbidding deep linking into a website is that it is so easy to prevent deep linking by technical means. (In fact, it's so easy that even mentioning it seems like a cliche.) On each HTTP request, examine the Referer: header and, if you don't like it, redirect to your homepage. Is there any reason why companies like Ryanair don't just do this?

Because these companies don't really want to forbid deep-linking, but establish some kind of recourse (regardless of whether it is legally enforceable, or just scary and threatening) against anyone who might offend them in some way.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by eam »

cavedave wrote: post #7
ivank wrote: post #6

How exactly would deoptimizing Ryanair hurt them financially? Do Ryanair customers search Google for anything but "Ryanair" when they want to get to ryanair.com?

well a google of "cheap flight dublin london" Ryanair comes up third. Which implies they must get a fair amount of traffic from search engines

Dear cavedave, this is an official notice to remind you that "You may not establish and/or operate links to this website without the prior written consent of Ryanair" as per the Terms & Conditions. In your blog post, you have linked ryanair.com in the sentence containing:

3. You go to their terms and conditions here and see they do not allow linking to their website

Please kindly unlink or be prepared for further legal action.

I will be sending you an email as well.

Thank you,

EAM Associates

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by qntm »

chris_j wrote: post #27

The perverse thing about terms forbidding deep linking into a website is that it is so easy to prevent deep linking by technical means. (In fact, it's so easy that even mentioning it seems like a cliche.) On each HTTP request, examine the Referer: header and, if you don't like it, redirect to your homepage. Is there any reason why companies like Ryanair don't just do this?

Because circumventing that filter is even easier than installing the filter in the first place?

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by snorkel »

furyg3 wrote: post #3

Google should, for giggles, just drop a good number of sites with these terms one day.

Not a bad idea actually, and it'd be even more effective if Google also penalized sites that link to other sites with unreasonable T&C.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by shpxnvz »

GrandMasterBirt wrote: post #29
jsmcgd wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That they should think through the consequences of their terms and conditions.

They do. Its just like signing a lease which indicates "no pets allowed" when everyone and their mother in the building has one, and the landlord knows. Its because if the clause is not in there and your dog is howling all night long they can do nothing. They may want content farms not linking, or perhaps other unknown super secret spy stuff?

It's more like walking into a store that has a tiny book on the floor inside the door that, if you open and read it, tells you that by having already entered the store you've agreed to be prohibited from telling anybody about anything you've seen inside without written consent.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by ZitchDog »

Tichy wrote: post #24
furyg3 wrote: post #3

Google should, for giggles, just drop a good number of sites with these terms one day.

Google probably would get the permission to link to Ryanair, though. And Google has to look good in the eye of searchers. They want to find what they are looking for and don't really care about the reasons for some results to be not available.

Google probably assumes that if you are not disallowing their spider via robots.txt you are consenting to allow Google to index your content.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by snorkel »

Tichy wrote: post #24
furyg3 wrote: post #3

Google should, for giggles, just drop a good number of sites with these terms one day.

Google probably would get the permission to link to Ryanair, though. And Google has to look good in the eye of searchers. They want to find what they are looking for and don't really care about the reasons for some results to be not available.

But Google is in a unique position to quickly correct a lot of bad T&C behaviors simply by implying that having those terms may hurt the SEO of offending sites. If SEOs suspected that was part of Google's ranking process then we'd see a lot of bad T&C clauses suddenly dropped.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Post by mckoss »

joelhaasnoot wrote: post #28
chris_j wrote: post #27

The perverse thing about terms forbidding deep linking into a website is that it is so easy to prevent deep linking by technical means. (In fact, it's so easy that even mentioning it seems like a cliche.) On each HTTP request, examine the Referer: header and, if you don't like it, redirect to your homepage. Is there any reason why companies like Ryanair don't just do this?

It's a blacklist, which inherently have their issues. Remember, this is Ryanair, that would mean their steward(esse)s have yet another task to do on their cell phones while supervising the boarding of 3 simultaneous flights.

Actually, it's more like a whitelist - much easier to maintain if they really want to explicitly approve inbound link sites.
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