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Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ryanair have such a well known airline brand that it's unlikely they are relying on organic search results.

A lot of non-tech people don't type any URL, they just type "Ryanair" in Google and click on the first link.

I do that (searching from the address bar) a lot, especially with non-US sites (like Ryanair) where you're not sure if it's .com or .co.uk or what.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Why do companies even have this clause in their T&C? What's the benefit?

Too many lawyers who want to look useful. I actually remember my boss telling me to put bullshit clauses in contract drafts so that those people have something to chew at and refrain from messing with the actual matter of the contract.

Reminds me of this:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2349378/new-programming-j...

It was on HN a while back.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Why do companies even have this clause in their T&C? What's the benefit?

Too many lawyers who want to look useful. I actually remember my boss telling me to put bullshit clauses in contract drafts so that those people have something to chew at and refrain from messing with the actual matter of the contract.

This is a well known tactic, and it works. When discussing a list of points in a meeting, the secret is to have a big controversial question come up first (that you don't actually care about): dealing with this first question eats up time, but what's better, it exhausts everyone. Then all the following points are much easier to sell.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Google should, for giggles, just drop a good number of sites with these terms one day.

Google probably would get the permission to link to Ryanair, though. And Google has to look good in the eye of searchers. They want to find what they are looking for and don't really care about the reasons for some results to be not available.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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How exactly would deoptimizing Ryanair hurt them financially? Do Ryanair customers search Google for anything but "Ryanair" when they want to get to ryanair.com?

Ryanair have such a well known airline brand that it's unlikely they are relying on organic search results.

He's just using Ryanair as a general example. Maybe it wouldn't really hurt them, but it could have an effect on other companies with this dumb policy.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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I assume that provided I never visit their website I'm not bound by their T&Cs and can therefore link to ryanair.com to my heart's content, right? :)

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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The perverse thing about terms forbidding deep linking into a website is that it is so easy to prevent deep linking by technical means. (In fact, it's so easy that even mentioning it seems like a cliche.) On each HTTP request, examine the Referer: header and, if you don't like it, redirect to your homepage. Is there any reason why companies like Ryanair don't just do this?

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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The perverse thing about terms forbidding deep linking into a website is that it is so easy to prevent deep linking by technical means. (In fact, it's so easy that even mentioning it seems like a cliche.) On each HTTP request, examine the Referer: header and, if you don't like it, redirect to your homepage. Is there any reason why companies like Ryanair don't just do this?

It's a blacklist, which inherently have their issues. Remember, this is Ryanair, that would mean their steward(esse)s have yet another task to do on their cell phones while supervising the boarding of 3 simultaneous flights.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What lesson are you trying to teach them?

That they should think through the consequences of their terms and conditions.

They do. Its just like signing a lease which indicates "no pets allowed" when everyone and their mother in the building has one, and the landlord knows. Its because if the clause is not in there and your dog is howling all night long they can do nothing. They may want content farms not linking, or perhaps other unknown super secret spy stuff?
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