German court bans Tesla ad statements related to autonomous driving

Post by cool_dude85 » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 5:50 PM UTC

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https://www.tesla.com/de_de/models > Hardware für autonomes Fahren Jedes neue Model S verfügt standardmäßig über modernste Hardware, um die Autopilot-Funktionalität schon heute und vollkommen autonomes Fahren in der Zukunft zu ermöglichen. Software-Updates werden diese Funktionalität im Laufe der Zeit weiter ausbauen und verbessern. > Die Autopilot-Funktionalität ermöglicht dem Fahrzeug automatisches Lenken, Beschleu…

That’s a web site though, not an advertisement. Was asking about advertisements.

Post by dave5104 » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

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> Tesla goofed from the beginning by calling tech like "Autosteer" and "Traffic Assisted Cruise Control" under the moniker "Autopilot" I am not accusing you specifically of using weak language, but let's call a spade a spade: it's not a "goof," it's a dangerous and deceptive business practice. It's one that Elon Musk is directly responsible for and directly encouraged with misleading statements where he deliberately…

> It is true that highly knowledgeable people know that Musk is an idiot conman Sorry to nitpick but highly knowledgeable people will surely never claim Musk is an idiot anything. He is definitely a genius in several ways. For something so technologically advanced as self-driving cars, his stuttering style seems to convey more sincerity to the general public than Steve Job's glib speech ever would

Post by sergiosgc » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

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Have you driven one? There is plenty of (over)hype, but the cars are quite nice.

I have, and I also adore the cars, my next car will likely be a Tesla and I own the stock. I've spent a lot of time researching the company so I didn't come to this conclusion by being bitter over the company. I think it's important to point out that the success of the company is largely built on the mythos of the man rather than the objective success of the cars. Tesla, earlier this week reached a market cap exceedi…

Post by bumby » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 5:53 PM UTC

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Apparently, the dictionaries are in conspiracy with the general public, as they also define autopilot as "a device that keeps aircraft, spacecraft, and ships moving in a particular direction without human involvement". The etymology of the word automatic is also very telling. Generally we ascribe meaning to words by how people use it, and I'm not sure I'd call marketers people.

> Apparently, the dictionaries are in conspiracy with the general public, as they also define autopilot as "a device that keeps aircraft, spacecraft, and ships moving in a particular direction without human involvement". This is describing cruise control.

Post by gibolt » Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 5:54 PM UTC

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There is a reason no new manufacturers have succeeded in the past 100 years. Auto industry is tough and costly. Autopilot almost certainly gave them press and coverage that has helped sell cars and keep the company from collapsing. If a future promise is what it took to drive the battery revolution, it was a reasonable cost.

It's not just for press, they directly make money selling "FSD" add-on for ever-increasing thousands of dollars which currently does a couple of gimmicks, but, trust him: will soon be driving you around effortlessly (and other passengers for $$ when you're not using it)