I Know What You Download on BitTorrent • Hacker News Board

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by aasasd » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:14 PM UTC

Santosh83 wrote: post #12

Well my ISP gives out a dynamic IP address each time my DSL modem connects to them, so this tactic only reveals who downloaded what when they were assigned my current IP. Nothing much can be inferred from this data unless you are the ISP or govt and can tie the IP to the subscriber. And yes, it shows my IP downloaded the movie Zombieland, which I never did, so it is some other subscriber of the same ISP.

Indeed, not only I'm seeing somebody else's pretty mediocre taste, but I have no idea of my previous ips so can't check real accuracy.

However, what does impress me is that somebody downloaded multiple movies and games a day, with books and tailoring instructions thrown in. Dunno if the site counts seeding torrents too, but if not—someone is very busy just consuming all that.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by anoncake » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:14 PM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #173

Bjartr wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy is copyright infringement. There's no reason to call it theft. They are both bad for society, they are both illegal, but they are distinct.

While literally true; I have always found this argument to be petty and pedantic. I’ve heard every argument in the book; but even the old ads said ‘you wouldn’t steal ____’. The fundamental principle is so similar to the point that discussing it quickly devolves into pedantry. I am one that has had this discussion probably a dozen times; half of those on this forum, and I’ve just decided to stand by my educated opini…

Feel free to steal whatever you want from me as long as you don't deprive me of anything or violate my privacy.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by pmarreck » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:15 PM UTC

deadalus wrote: post #114

flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

seedr.cc, bitport.io or zbigz.com exist to solve this problem and would have saved him his job.

bitport is awesome, can vouch

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by PHGamer » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:16 PM UTC

rovr138 wrote: post #250

razakel wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Earlier this year there was a case where someone was accessing illegal stuff (as in, the sort of stuff that does warrant police kicking their door down at 4am) using public WiFi. Except the ISP had forgotten to take into account daylight savings time and given the police the wrong customer's details. Oops.

ouch More proof dates aren't easy.

they would be if everyone would just use UTC

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by eloisant » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:18 PM UTC

pathseeker wrote: post #177

londons_explore wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would pay extra for an ISP who only kept those logs say 1 hour. 1 hour should be plenty to identify who is currently running some network attack, and arguably an ISP doesn't have a legit reason for keeping private data longer than necessary to be an ISP under the GDPR .

I wonder if there are any government requirements here for people operating ISPs. Does anyone have any insight into the time range that is required to keep these logs (if there is one)?

In France it's one year.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by ben174 » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:19 PM UTC

jnsaff2 wrote: post #299

flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

http://bash.org/?258908

Hey that's me :)

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by lwhalen » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:21 PM UTC

ben174 wrote: post #366

jnsaff2 wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://bash.org/?258908

Hey that's me :)

Lol, and how did that work out for you?

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by karyon » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:24 PM UTC

ben174 wrote: post #366

jnsaff2 wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://bash.org/?258908

Hey that's me :)

now you ought to tell how it turned out!

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by pbhjpbhj » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:29 PM UTC

simion314 wrote: post #131

The data is garbage, i am sure my IP did not changed and it shows things that I am sure nobody downloaded. I am wondering if the data is just randomly generated or the algorithm is just broken/guessing. You could create some stress for some people if such websites get credibility.

Who has access to your WiFi though, how do you know it's secure, do you check; perhaps an authorised person has some secrets from you.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by 411111111111111 » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 8:29 PM UTC

carstenhag wrote: post #108

Pxtl wrote: post #55

This kind of thing is already done heavily by content rights-holders. If you torrent movies or games in Canada without a VPN, you will get nastygrams in your email from the rights-holders via your ISP. They're legally required to do so AFAIK, because even consumer-oriented ISPs that are very privacy driven also forward on those letters. Apparently if you don't reply to those emails you're fine, because they can't esc…

What, you only get emails ? In Germany you straight up get snail mails from lawyers demanding you to pay for the damages. But in Germany the only real bad thing is uploading, downloading by itself is more of a grey thing.

That is incorrect. Neither uploading nor downloading is strictly speaking forbidden. Only once it's been fully downloaded does it become illegal. Though a judge will likely defend the spirit of the law over the letter, making you guilty anyway.

The issue why uploading is even more dangerous is because then the urheber can demand damages for lost sales as well.

Don't take it on the light shoulder in Germany. Torrentung without a VPN can quickly get super expensive here