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Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by pankajdoharey »

sbmthakur wrote: post #90
pankajdoharey wrote: post #23

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Manufacturing is not just about cheap skilled labour it is about resources aswell. India lacks both cheap "skilled" labour and mineral resources. They do have low and unskilled labour in high numbers though. Also India is just about as democratic as Putins Russia.

> Also India is just about as democratic as Putins Russia. Could you share how did you gauge that? Different leaders (from different parties) have led India since Putin took Russia's helm: Vajpayee, Manmohan Singh and Narendra Modi

Yes just look at 'PM Care fund' it is explicitly outside of RTI, and thus prevents people from practising their democratic right to question usage of funds.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by entha_saava »

throay423432 wrote: post #55
pankajdoharey wrote: post #20

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Actually I think, the most ideal countries to expand manufacturing to are African countries, they have some of the same advantages once china had. 1. Mineral Resources. 2. Cheap Labour. 3. High Density of Lanthanide and Actinide group minerals. China also has a fourth advantage which is a good mix of Production, Manufacturing and Electronics Engineers. Which Africa doesn't have. On the other hand India doesn't have t…

I understand it is 'understood' that India is typically placed higher than Africa in the hierarchy of countries, owing to the success of their emigres. However, in reality, barring these colonial era 'Macaulay's children' (ala ICS officers who swore by the Queen} India and Africa actually have very similar development indicators. Unless, India sorts out its colonized education system, which ultimately is geared more…

The problem with Indian education system is that it is rote-learning focused. People do courses for sake of getting jobs and therefore everyone tries to game the system by optimizing for some metrics. It is not fundamentally geared towards shipping labour to other countries.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by entha_saava »

harichinnan wrote: post #85
throay423432 wrote: post #55

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I understand it is 'understood' that India is typically placed higher than Africa in the hierarchy of countries, owing to the success of their emigres. However, in reality, barring these colonial era 'Macaulay's children' (ala ICS officers who swore by the Queen} India and Africa actually have very similar development indicators. Unless, India sorts out its colonized education system, which ultimately is geared more…

They do teach mathematics in India well though. Indian expat population is a small percentage of what's back home. India has close to 1.4 billion population. Indian diaspora in other countries would be much less than 100 million. So that disproves your theory that Indian education is geared towards exporting labor. You might've been blindsided by India IT expats living in West. That came out because of focus on IT ed…

Can confirm. Once there was demand for IT because of outsourcing, everyone studied CSE and most of them didn't have interest in it, obviously. This explains the quality of work outsourced to sweatshops like Infosys and TCS.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by pankajdoharey »

rational_indian wrote: post #82
pankajdoharey wrote: post #23

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Manufacturing is not just about cheap skilled labour it is about resources aswell. India lacks both cheap "skilled" labour and mineral resources. They do have low and unskilled labour in high numbers though. Also India is just about as democratic as Putins Russia.

> Also India is just about as democratic as Putins Russia. Lol! A case of sour grapes?

I am not saying this, 4 Supreme Court judges have said this. RTI has been diluted so you dont get a reply to the anything. Democracy is more than elections.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by harichinnan »

brisance wrote: post #77

Someone help me understand this. If China and India get into a conflict, doesn't that mean each side would be trying to get the other's exports banned? Which means, effectively, Foxconn is handicapping itself?

India and China recently ended up at war. 20 Indian soldiers died and an undisclosed number of Chinese soldiers died during a primitive battle with Kung Fu sticks and stones. There's an agreement on not using firearms in conflicts and that has held up for some 60 years. There's no reason to believe this would be an all out war anytime soon.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by quantummkv »

jeremysalwen wrote: post #89
quantummkv wrote: post #54

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> This is blatant disinformation by omitting context. The CAA itself is discriminatory, since it does not apply to muslims > The CAA makes it easier for non-Muslims to claim citizenship You see, first of all it's not the Muslims that are literally fighting[1] for their[2] lives[3] and culture[4][5] from crazed zealots in countries around India. And unlike some other religions, the Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists don't ha…

Please become more educated on this issue. Muslims are not a monolithic group, and being a Muslim does not protect you from persecution in Muslim majority countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Shi'ism If the bill was meant to be secular, it could provide asylum for everyone suffering religious persecution, regardless of their religion. It clearly is designed to exclude muslims.

> If the bill was meant to be secular, it could provide asylum for everyone suffering religious persecution, regardless of their religion. It clearly is designed to exclude muslims.

Here is the document in it's entirety - http://egazette.nic.in/WriteReadData/2019/214646.pdf.

Please point out the relevant sections of the document where it is stated that Muslims will not be allowed to apply for asylum or that Muslims will not be granted asylum.

It just accelerates the process for certain groups of people that are in more grave danger in the area. There's nothing wrong in that. Just because some groups are not mentioned for the accelerated process does not mean that they are excluded from the entire process.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by magnio »

wow_no wrote: post #52
petre wrote: post #47

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Which is kind of ironic after what the US has done to people in Vietnam. But it's similar to what happened in Japan, only Japan was under US occupation, while Vietnam was not.

Apparently Vietnamese really like Americans, I literally can not fathom why. Heard it from Viets too. Time is weird.

Not only Americans. Vietnamese people view white, Western people very favorably, since they generally look up to those developed nations (and their citizens).

And yes, part of the reason is that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by pankajdoharey »

harichinnan wrote: post #100
quantummkv wrote: post #63

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> India lacks both cheap "skilled" labour and mineral resources. They do have low and unskilled labour in high numbers though Skills do not develop in a vacuum. You need to have requirements for a particular skill before you can spend resources to train workers in those skills. And the lack of large resources is also not that big of a problem. Unlike some countries, India tends to start and maintain friendly relation…

Parliamentary republic with brute majority would feel like a dictatorship. There's no real seperation of legislative and executive branches. Judiciary largely plays to win post retirement careers. But that usually gets fixed after an election or two. Democracies are often compared to China or Singapore on how they are inefficient in addressing long term issues. A parliamentary republic is a fair compromise between an…

I agree, but if the brute majority is not used well or if it is used to further individuals motives than the collective then they are not good.To practice Democracy, is the ability to question the usage of funds. Also dilution of institutions is quite worrisome even the supreme court judges have said this.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by [deleted] »

pankajdoharey wrote: post #101
sbmthakur wrote: post #90

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> Also India is just about as democratic as Putins Russia. Could you share how did you gauge that? Different leaders (from different parties) have led India since Putin took Russia's helm: Vajpayee, Manmohan Singh and Narendra Modi

Yes just look at 'PM Care fund' it is explicitly outside of RTI, and thus prevents people from practising their democratic right to question usage of funds.

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