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Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by lilyball »

qppo wrote: post #150
maerF0x0 wrote: post #124

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What does tiktok have that IG stories or SnapChat does not provide? It appears to me that TikTok is just a perpetuation of exclusivity in Social Networks (the same way kids exited FB when their parents signed up) ...

Technically, probably very little. Practically I think it's more diverse content and easier access to other people/fame/glamour for kids than Instagram, Snapchat, or even YouTube/Twitch/etc, since those platforms have been cornered by an existing group of "influencers." It's probably just a different kind of dopamine hit that kids can't get elsewhere.

Technically, TikTok is better at loading video than any other app I’ve used. Seeing a loading state on a video is so rare it makes me think something is wrong when I see it. And its recommendation engine (for you page) blows everyone else out of the water.

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Post by jquery »

ubermon wrote: post #416
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #404

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TikTok specifically has ties to the Chinese state apparatus that are concerning, similarly to Huawei. This isn't a blanket statement about Chinese companies in general - just those companies in particular. Specifically, this means these companies' products are likely to be tools of PRC state intelligence and the PRC's foreign-policy directives. The same cannot be said about other Chinese companies and similarly posit…

"The same cannot be said about other Chinese companies and similarly positioned companies in other countries. " What are other companies? Those that doesn't pose a threat? like those ones only produce cheap toys and clothes?. I think as long as Chinese government remain as independent and "different", anything comes out of there that really challenges current status quo would receive similar criticism like yours, reg…

TikTok has been caught slurping data on a level that’s an order of magnitude worse than Facebook, etc. Add its close ties to the enormously corrupt and evil CCP, and I find it easy to see why Westerners are unnerved by the app. Perhaps Tiktok could open-source its tracking library as a token of good faith.

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Post by swyx »

Natsu wrote: post #199
swyx wrote: post #163

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is the jury still out on whether MBS knowingly sent him that hack? that is, not to put too fine a point on it, a fast path to becoming even more of an international pariah than he already is

The jury is still out on whether there was even a hack to begin with. The analysis team claimed they couldn't decrypt WhatsApp messages, so they never actually analyzed any malware at all. HN called them out on that failure: https://github.com/ddz/whatsapp-media-decrypt They never responded with an actual malware analysis on the file they claimed might be responsible. The only evidence left after that was a claim of…

TIL, thank you.

if I were a billionaire I'd basically not stop until I got to the bottom of this one. everyone is vulnerable.

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Post by userbinator »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #349
bonzini wrote: post #270

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So in theory they should have no control on the apps you install on the personal side. Is this just moral obligation, or are they requiring full control of the phone even outside the work profile?

I manage phones for a big corp. Just want to clarify what's possible. Google highly limits what you can do in Work Profile mode, you can't control much outside the work profile. We can't see the app list on the personal side in work profile mode, BUT we can specify some that are a no-go. I'll show up as a compliance violation. But we can't view the list anymore like we could do with the pre-work profile Android Devic…

and forbidding of sideloading and rooting.

Good luck with that, if users have root they already have full control (and can thus tell whatever app exactly what it is expecting.)

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Post by Natsu »

swyx wrote: post #443
Natsu wrote: post #199

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The jury is still out on whether there was even a hack to begin with. The analysis team claimed they couldn't decrypt WhatsApp messages, so they never actually analyzed any malware at all. HN called them out on that failure: https://github.com/ddz/whatsapp-media-decrypt They never responded with an actual malware analysis on the file they claimed might be responsible. The only evidence left after that was a claim of…

TIL, thank you. if I were a billionaire I'd basically not stop until I got to the bottom of this one. everyone is vulnerable.

You're welcome and I agree, the lack of follow-up after being called out publicly like that is not a good look.

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Post by ccktlmazeltov »

thephyber wrote: post #435
ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #315

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China is blocking all the US apps, I don't see why the US (or US companies that get blocked in China) shouldn't do the same to popular Chinese apps.

Talking about countries versus companies is a different argument depending on whether you are inside or outside Chinese borders. I'm not at all in favor of the US government banning apps unless the US government publicly and transparently shows the proof of security risk first. Anything short of that just appears to be politics and is likely to just be a negotiation tactic. I prefer more privacy controls and transpar…

good point, if anything we need to inspire other countries about the benefits of democracy. A lot of my coworkers here in the US still think that China is doing good stuff.

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Post by yyyk »

stanfordkid wrote: post #304
jessaustin wrote: post #272

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Tricking a [EDIT: thanks 'spyspy!] WaPo journalist into visiting a consulate and then chopping him into pieces with a saw while he screamed and cursed you? Dropping bombs to kill hundreds of thousands of Yemeni children? Making the people of Saudi Arabia somehow less free? Those things were pretty bad sir! But now you've gone too far! How dare you peep on our first trillionaire while he's courting outside his marriag…

All whilst being propped up for decades by the USA for geopolitical objectives??! It's not an accident that one of the stupidest, most theocratic countries in the middle east receives the most weapons and support from the USA. We don't want a strong middle east. This is why countries like Iran, Lebanon, Syria are labelled as "terrorist".

That's exactly the same hypocrisy the OP is complaining about, just from the other direction. One faction of the West ignores Saudi's role in killing Yemenis; The other faction ignores Iran's role in killing Syrians. One faction ignores domestic repression in Saudi Arabia; the other ignores domestic repression in Iran. One ignores theocracy in Saudi, the other ignores theocracy in Iran.

Both countries and both rulers of said countries should be international pariahs.

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Post by simcop2387 »

scarface74 wrote: post #433
radlad wrote: post #430

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Android does this too. On neither platform does it work 100% of the time, especially in browsers. That's why almost all clipboard managers also have a "copy to clipboard" feature from the autofill view.

I’ve never had it not work in the browser.

It's usually a result of the webpage doing stupid stuff to try to explicitly block password managers. There's a lot of banking and government websites that believe this makes things more secure somehow.

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Post by Teknoman117 »

radlad wrote: post #430
scarface74 wrote: post #425

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For one, the clipboard snooping problem. If you’re using a password-manager (like we’re supposed to!) and use it to copy passwords (say, your Amazon employee internal credentials...) while you have TikTok open, the TikTok app would see it and could upload it somewhere. Your password should never be in your clipboard at least with iOS. If you’re using either the native password manager or a third party password manage…

Android does this too. On neither platform does it work 100% of the time, especially in browsers. That's why almost all clipboard managers also have a "copy to clipboard" feature from the autofill view.

It rarely fails for me in the browser, but it fails on me regularly for apps.

The ones that particularly annoy me are the ones that haven't updated to the new Android biometric API versus just supporting the old fingerprint API. I'm looking at you Chase mobile app.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

dvt wrote: post #109

Looks like TikTok is slowly imploding. I know there's plenty of political implications and a lot of discussion here is on that (which is interesting in its own right), but I wonder if there's opportunity here for a potential competitor.

*imploding in the USA. East Asia, India, etc can't get enough of it. No doubt the Indian ban will be temporary while they evaluate it.
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