Is the Trojan based on magic? How will redirecting target computer infect it. What about out tipping off the suspect when it fails to implant? This idea is fantasy.
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New German law would force ISPs to allow secret service to install trojans
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#132Does this not invalidate the claims by many small companies that data has good days privacy laws and that your data is safe there? Could we arrange a petition where users of those services can sign up to say they will change providers if the law passes?
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#133You would think that the country, after recovering from both naziism, and also a chilling communist rule in the east, would worry more about the surveillance state growing. What is German public sentiment about that sort of thing? Does anybody know?
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#134To not even be sure whether a website you visit, or a file you download is actually what its creator says it is, is like picking up an orange but the government secretly replaces it with an apple that contains almost no vitamin C in it at all. You have the right to seek out and eat an orange for your immune system and survival, and no government should have the right to interfere with that, at any time. This law is a…
Absolutely true and brilliant comparison. +1
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#135Germany is part of the five eyes if I remember correctly.
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#136Germany is part of the five eyes if I remember correctly.
> The Five Eyes (FVEY) is an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States.
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#137Germany is part of the five eyes if I remember correctly.
> The Five Eyes (FVEY) is an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
Oh it's 14 eyes now. Germany is still in there.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Internet freedom in Germany? https://stadt-nachrichten.de/fahndungen/hasskommentare-im-in... https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-inland/hass-kommentare-... https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/aktuelles/gesetz-gege... Boy China is childs play compared to us.
What does this have to do with "internet freedom" (whatever that means)? Statements that would get you prosecuted when shouted in the streets have that same effect when posted online. Surprised Pikachu face?
By that logic, China is doing excellent on internet freedom, since whatever is banned online, is also mostly illegal in the streets too.
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#139What does "trojans at ISPs" even mean? TLS works end-to-end and ISPs can do absolutely nothing to see the plaintext. It's unless the CAs at users-side are manually replaced with fake ones nothing can be done. I've never used Windows since I was a kid but I am sure this is pretty much impossible on Linux for example since adding CAs require root privilege.
That is a good question. Looking at some of Citizen Lab’s excellent reporting on FinFisher shows that victims were redirected to regular unencrypted http downloads when the malware was installed. One of the examples given was when a user tried to download Avast antivirus from a well-known software hosting site and the download was done over http. There are several security sites that have downloadable packet captures…
Browsers should phase out and block executable downloads from HTTP sources in 12 months.
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#140The German surveillance state is very capable and often understated. They even “ran” Crypto AG with the NSA for decades and even profited from it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG
TIL. Didn’t know Germany was involved in that.
The alliance that managed Crypto AG was named by a German beer brand, Maximator. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximator_(intelligence_allian...