I have never understood trying to get in to heaven on a technicality. Anyway, none of my business! All power to them (except during Shabbat of course.)
Pretty sure they are ironic.
Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server
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#142It is also not clear cut that other than the incandescent bulb use of electricity is actually prohibited. The Hazon Ish ruled that the completion of a circuit is considered ‘makke bapatish’ or ‘boneh’. But one can argue reasonably that it is not so.
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#143As on Orthodox Jew, while I don't have anything against this and it sounds like a fun hobby project, I don't like that it misleads regarding what Jewish law actually requires. As several others have mentioned, there is absolutely no problem with keeping a server running on the sabbath - computers aren't Jews (Jewish law only expects Jews to keep the sabbath). If it's Jews working to generate the electricity (most "mo…
...so, any theories as to who made this and what the purpose was? I mean, maybe it is just a hobby project, but it's a bit of an odd one if the requirements that don't exist at all.
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#144As on Orthodox Jew, while I don't have anything against this and it sounds like a fun hobby project, I don't like that it misleads regarding what Jewish law actually requires. As several others have mentioned, there is absolutely no problem with keeping a server running on the sabbath - computers aren't Jews (Jewish law only expects Jews to keep the sabbath). If it's Jews working to generate the electricity (most "mo…
>people or Jews I like the distinction you make here.
IIRC Bible translates goyim as people.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
B&H photo (run by Orthodox Jews out of NYC) stops accepting orders during the sabbath in their time zone. You can keep browsing, but you can’t generate work for them. This seems like a decent compromise, and it’s definitely not hurting their business.
> And it’s definitely not hurting their business. I would question that conclusion. There have been times in the past I've wanted to order from B&H, but could not because it was on the Sabbath. In most cases, I just keep looking until I found the item on a different website. I'm sure they consider the loss of business worthwhile to comply with their religion, but there is a cost.
> but there is a cost.
It may be less than you suspect because the regular bubble in their ordering pipeline might give them time to deal with suppliers, maintain stock, improve their website, maintain systems, relax and refocus, etc.
I doubt it works out better than not doing it at least economically, but there may be enough benefit to offset most of the costs.
The times I've run into the B&H sabbath outage, I just waited and ordered later. There are more thing in my life than just ordering things as fast as possible, and I respect a business for having other priorities. (Plus, B&H is just generally a really good supplier)
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#146The tongue-in-cheek humor of this project aside, it returns an astoundingly antisemitic search result on the home page. See https://wethoughttheywerewhite.tumblr.com/ , a blog dedicated to blaming the Jewish people for the international slave trade. It's awful .
There are a lot of wild accusations on that website. It would be interesting to see some sources or references for this information.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
B&H photo (run by Orthodox Jews out of NYC) stops accepting orders during the sabbath in their time zone. You can keep browsing, but you can’t generate work for them. This seems like a decent compromise, and it’s definitely not hurting their business.
> And it’s definitely not hurting their business. I would question that conclusion. There have been times in the past I've wanted to order from B&H, but could not because it was on the Sabbath. In most cases, I just keep looking until I found the item on a different website. I'm sure they consider the loss of business worthwhile to comply with their religion, but there is a cost.
Chick-Fil-A does the same thing domestically with their respective Sabbath on Sunday and it's reported to cost them over $1 billion a year in lost sales. Remembering the Sabbath day to keep it holy is extremely expensive, especially when the business is online and serving a worldwide customer base.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And it’s definitely not hurting their business. I would question that conclusion. There have been times in the past I've wanted to order from B&H, but could not because it was on the Sabbath. In most cases, I just keep looking until I found the item on a different website. I'm sure they consider the loss of business worthwhile to comply with their religion, but there is a cost.
> but there is a cost. It may be less than you suspect because the regular bubble in their ordering pipeline might give them time to deal with suppliers, maintain stock, improve their website, maintain systems, relax and refocus, etc. I doubt it works out better than not doing it at least economically, but there may be enough benefit to offset most of the costs. The times I've run into the B&H sabbath outage, I just…
> There are more thing in my life than just ordering things as fast as possible.
On a purely personal level, it's not so much the speed as it is the need to get it done and move on with my life. If I need to order something, I want to just do it and forget about it for a few days (or whatever) until it arrives in the mail. If I have to come back later, that's one more thing for my mental to-do list.
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#149I saw the dreaded Cloudflare "one more step" page and closed the tab. I'm highly doubtful Cloudflare is kosher.
Captcha is ultra kosher, because it assumes you're not a human and must prove otherwise.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok. A serious question here: Can some HN Jews, enlighten me (a 100%-proof agnostic) on what they actually do on Shabbat? Are you allowed to use the internet? If something in your house breaks, are you not allowed to fix it? Do you just sit around gazing into space just in case something you do is classed as 'work'? I find the whole concept quite interesting.
The major theme is that we are not allowed to do anything constructive/productive. Just as God stopped creating the world on the seventh day, we stop our part of making the world. This is broken out into fine detail in the sources. There are 39 categories of work listed, covering agriculture, food production and cooking, textile production, building, and a few more. When electricity came along there was a big debate…
What about games?