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Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by kumarvvr » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:30 PM UTC

blauditore wrote: post #206

What really drives me crazy are prompts that start by showing two options: "Consent to all cookies", or "customize". If you click "customize", it opens a new modal window with a loading indicator that just doesn't seem to finish. I literally waited 60 seconds and then tried again by refreshing the page, ending up with another infinite loading indicator. This means that users are de-factor forced to click "consent to…

Slow on purpose.

All incentives for the site owners are against user interests.

No one benefits from users clicking to No Consent.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by dwild » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:31 PM UTC

The position of the "no" is what made the most difference. My SO constantly click on "Ok" without thinking. The number of time she told me something didn't work, I asked her for the error, she said there was none, I then ask her to reproduce the problem and then she mechanically click on "Ok" of an error warning...

Is it really less disingenuous to place it to fit what HE wants versus what SOMEONE else wants? Both still abuse this mechanic... it's just the goal that we agree with.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by cycomanic » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:32 PM UTC

beshrkayali wrote: post #34

black_puppydog wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More a problem of enforcement than the legislation IMO. It wouldn't take many cases to be properly litigated before publishers would understand this is a law that is to be obeyed like any other.

I honestly don't trust governments/bureaucrats to be able to come up with a solution for this issue. This is one of those problems that evolves very quickly, and the solution probably needs to be done by a private company or by each person individually.

I definitely don't trust private business to fix this. In case you haven't noticed private business efficiency is largely about externalising cost and internalising profits. So private business is completely I'll equipped to fix issues that effect society as a whole.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by dwild » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:32 PM UTC

phito wrote: post #101

bambax wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would anyone consent to be tracked if given a real choice? What are the benefits? The 9% look like an error.

I know people who just automatically click yes. I don't think they ever even cared to read what is says. They just have the habit to click yes to every prompt to "make sure it works"

He switched the yes/no button position... they would have automatically click "no" instead...

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by paulie_a » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:32 PM UTC

The amazing thing is that the vast majority of websites do not even need to display a warning or anything. The gdpr doesn't apply to vast portions of the internet. He it doesn't apply to the vast majority of the internet

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by z_open » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:33 PM UTC

dimitrios1 wrote: post #220

beshrkayali wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DockerHub uses a company/product called "TrustArc: TRUSTe" and they have _exactly_ this method. The slowdown is intentional. People who come up with sort of tactics and those who implement them should go to jail. It's beyond infuriating. I've decided to not upload my images to dockerhub because of this. Edit: jail time is not for anger obviously, but for intentionally swindling people. It'll be handled on a case by c…

Causing you to get angry is all it takes to warrant justification for jail time in your eyes? I am thankful you aren't in charge of any lawmaking.

It seemed very clear to me from his comment that his justification didn't revolve around him getting angry personally, but the harm these features cause over time. With that being said, your post seems disingenuous. I personally don't believe in jail time for this, but very heavy fines certainly. People need to care about these issues.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by tobr » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:34 PM UTC

dimitrios1 wrote: post #220

beshrkayali wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DockerHub uses a company/product called "TrustArc: TRUSTe" and they have _exactly_ this method. The slowdown is intentional. People who come up with sort of tactics and those who implement them should go to jail. It's beyond infuriating. I've decided to not upload my images to dockerhub because of this. Edit: jail time is not for anger obviously, but for intentionally swindling people. It'll be handled on a case by c…

Causing you to get angry is all it takes to warrant justification for jail time in your eyes? I am thankful you aren't in charge of any lawmaking.

No, hurting others and breaking the law justifies jail time and causes anger.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by cycomanic » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:35 PM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #143

Retric wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Airlines and airline manufacturers also have vast financial incentives to risk crashes by taking minor shortcuts. That doesn’t exist for your drivers test.

That's not in the airline's interest because then the plane crashes and they lose a hundred million dollar plane and get sued and go bankrupt. It could be in an individual manager's interest because then they get a bonus and are working for some other company by the time the plane crashes, but the airline itself has the aforementioned incentive to put processes into place all on their own to prevent that from happeni…

Your argument is all "logical" but it does not agree with reality, the boeing 737 Max is a prime example.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by pcora » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:35 PM UTC

I for one have been enjoying the verge and weather.com without any crap or slowness.. just ignoring the consent at the bottom :P

for websites that do not allow me to navigate or do not have a refuse button, I simply navigate away.

Re: Only 9% of visitors give GDPR consent to be tracked

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Post by alkonaut » Tue, Jul 07, 2020, 1:36 PM UTC

fabiospampinato wrote: post #224

I hate ads as much as everybody else, and this reads to me like "given the choice only 9% of people would pay for their meal", should we forbid charging for food then? Probably not. As sad as the current ads-powered internet is becoming I haven't seen any promising viable alternative, and sure non-tracking-based ads is not the same thing as having no ads, but it significantly moves the needle in that same direction i…

A meal paid for by money is a transaction where both parties understand what’s being exchanged. Not paying for it criminal.

A viable alternative: show non tracking ads and see if it keeps the lights on, otherwise shut down?