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Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by rbanffy »

rsynnott wrote: post #64
heisbsissi wrote: post #27

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As a gentile, it seems pretty obvious to me that this is borderline satire. You sound like Devin Nunes apoplectic about how it is not actually one of his farm animals criticizing him on twitter.

I think this sort of thing reads as absurd in Christian majority cultures mostly because mainstream Christianity does not currently have many restrictions which inconvenience people day to day. Back when it did, they did stuff that was at least as weird; did you know that both beavers and certain types of geese were regionally considered to be fish to get around the no meat on Fridays thing?

A very non-practicing Jewish friend of mine joked that he went to the local butcher, pointed to the pork and ordered, while pointing, "that fish".

Growing up with those restrictions seems to do wonders for one's sense of humor.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by ajuc »

rsynnott wrote: post #64
heisbsissi wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a gentile, it seems pretty obvious to me that this is borderline satire. You sound like Devin Nunes apoplectic about how it is not actually one of his farm animals criticizing him on twitter.

I think this sort of thing reads as absurd in Christian majority cultures mostly because mainstream Christianity does not currently have many restrictions which inconvenience people day to day. Back when it did, they did stuff that was at least as weird; did you know that both beavers and certain types of geese were regionally considered to be fish to get around the no meat on Fridays thing?

There's a celebrity catholic fundamentalist nut in Poland that shuts down the shop on his website on sundays.

He also had a divorce and wants to shoot refuges, so :)

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by emosenkis »

helge9210 wrote: post #48
warrenpj wrote: post #45

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I don't see the distinction. The context is >computers are not people or jews Jews are a subset of people.

As non-jewish citizen of Israel I see this distinction every day. I'm surprised Orthodox Jew would admit it in the open.

I'm still not sure what distinction you think I made... what I intended was: 1. All Jews are people 2. Computers are not people 3. Therefore computers are not Jews

As a Jewish citizen of both Israel and the US, I understand that it can be hard to exist as a minority in your own country, and I'm sure it's harder in Israel, which doesn't have separation of religion & state.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by emosenkis »

rsynnott wrote: post #61
helge9210 wrote: post #37

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>people or Jews I like the distinction you make here.

Inclusive or, I assume (from my limited understanding, Judaism considers some rules to only apply to Jews, so it would make sense to consider Jews and Gentiles separately here). Total side note, but I’ve noticed that programmers (including myself) are more prone to read English or as xor than, for want of a better term, normal people. Not sure why this is.

That's correct; I updated my original comment to mention that the Jewish laws of the sabbath aren't meant to apply to non-Jews (there is, however, a large and rather entertaining body of practical discussion of under what conditions, and how explicitly, one can ask a non-Jew to do things on the sabbath that would be forbidden for the asker themself to do).

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by emosenkis »

sukilot wrote: post #35
emosenkis wrote: post #25

As on Orthodox Jew, while I don't have anything against this and it sounds like a fun hobby project, I don't like that it misleads regarding what Jewish law actually requires. As several others have mentioned, there is absolutely no problem with keeping a server running on the sabbath - computers aren't Jews (Jewish law only expects Jews to keep the sabbath). If it's Jews working to generate the electricity (most "mo…

Jews exist outside of Israel. Saying that an organization with majority non Jews probably has no Jews working on it is bizarrely innumerate.

To elaborate on another comment: Jewish law is seldom concerned with absolute certainty; it much more often is a question of degrees of doubt. In many cases two disjoint causes for reasonable doubt about facts that would impact the whether a certain action is forbidden are sufficient to render it permitted. When coming from a mindset of mathematical/logical proof, it can seem like "fuzzy logic" or, as you said, innumerate, but in actuality it's typically more like a hypothesis and the body of evidence that supports it (and depending on the specific hypothesis, a higher or lower degree of certainty may be considered sufficient).

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by gorgoiler »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #55
sukilot wrote: post #35

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Jews exist outside of Israel. Saying that an organization with majority non Jews probably has no Jews working on it is bizarrely innumerate.

From: http://www.thebigquestions.com/2020/04/15/goofus-gallant-and... >You have three pieces of meat, two kosher, one not. You lose track of which is which. Can you eat them? Answer, according to (my memory of Sternberg’s account of) the Talmud: Each individual piece of meat has a 2/3 chance of being kosher. So if you choose one of them and ask “Is this kosher?”, a “yes” answer gives you a 2/3 chance to be right and…

Ah yes: the Monty Challah problem.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by WJW »

reallydontask wrote: post #16

I can't find the exact quote but I think a comedian once said something along the lines of (large pinches of salt on the quote and whether it was said by a comedian): You think your god is all knowing, etc.. but at the same time stupid enough to fall for these work arounds

God can't be stupid since (by axiom) he is all-knowing, perfect and presumably cares about the laws he sets. Therefore, any loopholes in the laws were put there on purpose and the believer is actually extra virtuous for paying close enough attention to notice the workarounds.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by avipars »

ggop wrote: post #38

B&H Video is shut for a day every week but also disallows online checkout. I've always found that interesting, like the website is an extension of their beliefs. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/StoreInfo.jsp > Online Checkout Hours > Open 24/6 > Online checkout will be closed while we observe Shabbat from 8:15pm ET Fri until 9:45pm ET Sat. Although online ordering is unavailable, you may still add items…

Yep, also on jewish holidays.

I respect them for that.

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