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Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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> Putting your users interest first needs to be balanced with remaining profitable so you can keep existing. Although this can be a sound principle for many, I do not agree with it. Brave is not 'entitled' in any way nor should the world bend to make Brave possible. It's a company like any other, with a product like any other and with, IMO, questionable leadrship principles demonstrated over and over again. The marke…

> Brave is not 'entitled' in any way nor should the world bend to make Brave possible. I never said it was entitled, I said it had to balance things to survive. > If I was to build a browser (which btw I am doing) I would put 100% user interest first, at the price of not succeeding in the market. That is the only way I could sleep well at night. A quick look at the history of humanity will show you that even the most…

You can balance things without making moral compromises. Making bad choices deliberately is different than making bad choices by a virtue of an honest mistake. For this particular feature Brave could have offered to split affiliate revenue with users 50-50. Then even if the idea was received poorly nobody could argue against the right to experiment and try to survive. Keeping 100% for yourself is greedy, shady and unnecessary not to mention uncovers that they don’t really put users first. Why not just run a bitcoin miner in the browser and keep everything for themselves? Where do you draw a line and say this company is not behaving like you are expecting?

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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same can be said for Firefox though (+300 million a year comes from google): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing

The browser rendering engine for Firefox (Gecko) is independent from Chromium, and as such isn't really reliant on Google. Mozilla's reliance on Google is solely for displaying Google as the default search engine.

sure the engine is not descended from google code but if mozilla didnt have google's funding they would essentially go bankrupt and consequently ff would go byebye. id call that dependence.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Store browsing data in memory. That said, data being available to forensic level HD recovery is very different from data still being used to populate the most visited sites.

storing in memory would only provide browsing data for the current session, permanent storage of history is not possible without writing to disk

That would provide fairly strong evidence that it was actually being deleted.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Either someone who's not comfortable with your comment or you forgot to link to a source.

> Either someone who's not comfortable with your comment Someone who?

Brave team?

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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This is a bug, have you guys seen a software bug before? What is it with the appetite for outrage? Using brave on Android devices and not planning to switch

Brave on Android still includes phone model in the user agent string which is terrible for privacy. There's been an open GitHub issue for over a year at this point, I think. It doesn't appear to be a priority to fix, despite being a massive low hanging fruit for improved privacy.

This just shows that the company isn't actually serious about privacy.

Use Firefox Focus instead: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fo...

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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Brave Browser continues to behave in ways that are contrary to their stated principles. I dropped the browser a couple of months ago on the heels of the bitcoin affiliate link scandal and went back to Safari and Firefox. I am keeping an eye on Braver Browser, a fork of Brave with the intention of removing the questionable behavior: https://github.com/braver-browser

What's the advantage of Braver over Firefox? Is it just that you're trying to get ad blocking on iOS?

Firefox still doesn't have ergonomic pinch-to-zoom on macOS... There are experimental flags you can use to get it mostly working, but the gestures can end up triggering navigate-back or -forwards actions.

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> That should be all we need to know, right? Not really, their whole proposition is to do ads in a privacy respecting way, and you always have the option to just turn them off entirely. The payments model they have for websites is my favorite thing about the browser and I'd love to see more models like it catch on. Giving the ability to easily fund content creators by just filling up your wallet periodically (without…

> you always have the option to just turn them off entirely This is not fully accurate. You have to explicitly find and enable ads if you want them. They are off by default.

Thanks for the correction. I like the idea of what Brave does, but I'm too reliant on some Firefox features (tree style tabs + containers) so I don't actually use it myself and sometimes get it a bit wrong.

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Subsequent comments have pointed to the founder’s background. What’s the evidence that DDG itself is not privacy centric as claimed?

1. Founded Names Database - a social media website designed to collect user information as aggressively as possible, before selling all the information to classmates.com.[1] (got this from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23709270 ) 2. Invested in Locately TWO YEARS after founding DDG.[2] Locately, for those unfamiliar with the company, had built a proprietary data-mining engine which collected data from customer…

I asked about the privacy practices of the company and 66% of your answer is about the founder and not the company. I specifically wanted information about DDG, not the founder. This kind of response makes me more suspicious of the outrage.

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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storing in memory would only provide browsing data for the current session, permanent storage of history is not possible without writing to disk

That would provide fairly strong evidence that it was actually being deleted.

if what you are referring to were possible

Re: Brave Browser, wiping history still leaves trace of visited sites

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That would provide fairly strong evidence that it was actually being deleted.

if what you are referring to were possible

It's not really hard, you just want a system that let's you save your history through a reboot.
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