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Re: Ask HN: What consumer web apps do people pay for?

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Consumer Apps? There really aren't many out there. The ones that are fall into the new content/entertainment segment of news/music/video, primarily. Everything else has been made free so it can get pretty tough to get people to open their wallets. I know a few who pay for Flickr Pro, netflix, and that's it.

Me - Carbonite, some skype minutes here and there

What could your app possibly do for $108/year ($9/mo) that would be "really useful" to me as a consumer?

Re: Ask HN: What consumer web apps do people pay for?

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Pricing doesn't have to be rental, or purchase. There is a continuum.

For example, Stardock has made a nice niche for itself in skins for Windows, among other products. Their flaship product, ObjectDesktop, costs something like $50.

For $50, the customer owns a copy of ObjectDesktop forever. Plus, they get a 'free' subscription to all changes and upgrades for a year. After that, the subscription automatically expires. The customer can renew if they like. Customers addicted to downloading the latest tweak or feature discover their subscription has lapsed, then decide to renew. Even if they don't renew, they can still use the software they bought.

Stardock is continually improving the product, adding cool new features, engaging users on its forums etc. etc. I suspect most of their buyers choose to renew their subscriptions, or decide to do so when a particularly neat new feature comes out.

Stardock started in the early 1990s as a university student part-time project and is now a multi-employee operation generating what I imagine is a very nice monthly cash-flow. The owner/founder clearly does whatever the heck he wants while keeping a tight focus on continuing to deliver value for paying customers. No VC money, no angels - just organic growth from revenues.

Re: Ask HN: What consumer web apps do people pay for?

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Pricing doesn't have to be rental, or purchase. There is a continuum. For example, Stardock has made a nice niche for itself in skins for Windows, among other products. Their flaship product, ObjectDesktop, costs something like $50. For $50, the customer owns a copy of ObjectDesktop forever. Plus, they get a 'free' subscription to all changes and upgrades for a year. After that, the subscription automatically expires…

You didn't read my question properly; I'm asking about web apps, not desktop apps.

Re: Ask HN: What consumer web apps do people pay for?

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post #23

Pricing doesn't have to be rental, or purchase. There is a continuum. For example, Stardock has made a nice niche for itself in skins for Windows, among other products. Their flaship product, ObjectDesktop, costs something like $50. For $50, the customer owns a copy of ObjectDesktop forever. Plus, they get a 'free' subscription to all changes and upgrades for a year. After that, the subscription automatically expires…

You didn't read my question properly; I'm asking about web apps, not desktop apps.

Apologies, I'd not meant to appear thick. I'm just suggesting that there need not be a distinction. Pricing innovations in the desktop space can also apply to the web space.

Subscription means you have to convince the customer that enough value is being delivered consistently to make them feel comfortable paying month after month automatically. Single purchase means you only have to convince a customer that value is being delivered right now. The single purchase decision is a much lower decision hurdle.

In the real world, single purchase decisions vastly outweigh subscription purchases in both value and volume. So why do web apps, lemming like, aim at the higher hurdle? As the responses to your question suggest, unless you are netflix that is usually insurmountable. Even well proven physical subscription models (newspapers, magazines) are having a hard time making the subscription model work on-line. Hence the fallback to advertising revenue or hoping to be bought out.

If you can't give the customer something real, tangible and permanent now then you automatically assign yourself the tougher challenge of convincing them that the site will still be around, functioning and delivering value into the future.

Example: $20 gets you into our web app. All your needs met and delivered to you in Excel/OpenOffice/GoogleDocs format...whatever. This is yours to keep forever and you get one year free access to our fantastic service and all its upgrades.

I've a few more specific ideas, but I'm saving them for the day I decide to ditch my life as a well paid corporate drone.

Wait - just thought of another one. Its not on my list, suffers from a need to get physical and has probably already been done, but illustrates that a single purchase, subscription-like model is possible in theory.

webPrint.now Dump a digital image on webPrint.now and we'll get a high quality physical print to you overnight. A gazillion file formats supported. Sizes from tiny to gigantic. [Single purchases, but repeat customers will be the best business.]

Re: Ask HN: What consumer web apps do people pay for?

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This is probably not much help to you, but I pay yearly for Yahoo Mail Plus -- mainly because it allows me to use POP3.

I didn't know Yahoo charged for this. Any reason you went down this path rather than Gmail, which offers POP3 and IMAP both for free?
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