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Re: Ask HN: Recommend a maths book for a teenager?

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I have to disagree with you here, and strongly. I don't think Gödel, Escher, Bach is a good book. Hofstaeder is clearly very smart, curious, and open-minded, and I love all those things, but the book itself is just so pretentious and sort of pointless. It's precisely the wrong kind of book you want to give a bright teenager, because it will only encourage them to get a head-start inserting their head up their own ars…

> I don't think Gödel, Escher, Bach is a good book. Hofstaeder is clearly very smart, curious, and open-minded, and I love all those things, but the book itself is just so pretentious and sort of pointless. I'm curious: Do you feel this way because it isn't a math textbook?

Not at all. My own recommendation, God created the Integers, isn't a math textbook. I doubt Hofstadter himself would claim GEB had a point - it was more of an intellectual fugue put to paper. If GEB was a novel it would be more along the lines of Finnegan's Wake than Les Misérables, and I would never ever give the former to a teenager.

Re: Ask HN: Recommend a maths book for a teenager?

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>What would you have appreciated having been given at that age? I remember getting God Created The Integers when I was a teenager and... not finishing it. I also got a copy of Brown & Churchill's Complex Variables and Applications and spent hundreds of hours on it. As a teenager, I preferred textbooks with problem sets to popularizations. (I still do.) Of course, this was [complex] analysis, so it doesn't qualify. On…

I would give God Created The Integers as a reference to read up to where you are in math, not as something to get through. So, you could get a feel for what Euclid wrote, or what Descartes wrote, either after or during learning those lessons. As you move through your education, you can keep moving through the book, Cauchy, Galois, Riemann, etc. Anyway, that's the context in which I would give it. BTW Cantor's original diagonal proof is in GCTI. :)

Re: Ask HN: Recommend a maths book for a teenager?

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During the first year of my undergrad someone introduced me to Gödel, Escher, Bach. I thought it was mind blowing at the time and still find it to be an incredible introduction to formal systems, thinking mathematically and understanding the concept of proofs. All these concepts are central to higher level mathematics, and are not covered in high school (at least not the Danish one). I'm was very thankful for that in…

I read it when I was 16 and it was just wonderful. I can also recommend it.

Re: Ask HN: Recommend a maths book for a teenager?

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Concrete Mathematics by Knuth and Patashnik (already mentioned for u/pmiller2) if the kid likes numbers. That's perhaps the guiding thread of the book -- it's about the beautiful (yet usually very elementary and natural) things you can do with numbers. Geometry Revisited by Coxeter and Greitzer and/or Episodes in Nineteenth and Twentieth Century Euclidean Geometry by Honsberger if the kid is into plane geometry. It's…

If the kid likes plane geometry and is interested in further math, I’d highly recommend Yaglom’s books Geometric Transformations. They are a series of (hard) problem-focused books which teach the ideas of transformation geometry in service of solving various construction problems.

In general transformation geometry is drastically underemphasized in American (and possibly other countries’) secondary and early undergraduate math education.

Re: Ask HN: Recommend a maths book for a teenager?

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https://www.amazon.com/Mathematical-Circles-Dmitry-Fomin/dp/... It is a book produced by a remarkable cultural circumstance in the former Soviet Union which fostered the creation of groups of students, teachers, and mathematicians called "Mathematical Circles". The work is predicated on the idea that studying mathematics can generate the same enthusiasm as playing a team sport-without necessarily being competitive. T…

This would be better for a 10–14 year old in middle school or early high school.

Hmmm. There's no way my 10 year old daughter would read beyond the first page of that thing. For 15-16 it's great.

Re: Ask HN: Recommend a maths book for a teenager?

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Linear algebra, and more than one such book.

IMHO long and still the best linear algebra book is

Halmos, Finite Dimensional Vector Spaces (FDVS).

It was written in 1942 when Halmos was an "assistant" to John von Neumann at the Institute for Advanced Study. It is intended to be finite dimensional vector spaces but done with the techniques of Hilbert space. The central result in the book, according to Halmos, is the spectral decomposition. One result at a time, the quality of von Neumann comes through. Commonly physicists have been given that book as their introduction to Hilbert space for quantum mechanics.

But FDVS is a little too much for a first book on linear algebra, or maybe even a second book, should be maybe a third one.

Also high quality is Nering, Linear Algebra and Matrix Theory. Again, the quality comes through: Nering was a student of Artin at Princeton. There Nering does most of linear algebra on just finite fields, not just the real and complex fields; finite fields in linear algebra are important in error correcting codes. So, that finite field work is a good introduction to abstract algebra.

For a first book on linear algebra, I'd recommend something easy. The one I used was

Murdoch, Linear Algebra for Undergraduates.

It's still okay if can find it.

For a first book, likely the one by Strang at MIT is good. Just use it as a first book and don't take it too seriously since are going to cover all of it and more again later.

I can recommend the beginning sections on vector spaces, convexity, and the inverse and implicit function theorems in

Fleming, Functions of Several Variables

Fleming was long at the Brown University Division of Applied Math. The later chapters are on measure theory, the Lebesgue integral, and the exterior algebra of differential forms, and there are better treatments.

Also there is now

Stephen Boyd and Lieven Vandenberghe, Introduction to Applied Linear Algebra – Vectors, Matrices, and Least Squares

at

http://vmls-book.stanford.edu/vmls.pdf

Since the book is new, I've only looked through it -- it looks like a good selection and arrangement of topics. And Boyd is good, wrote a terrific book, maybe, IMHO likely, the best in the world, on convexity, which is in a sense is half of linearity.

Some course slides are available at

http://vmls-book.stanford.edu/

For reference for more, have a copy of

Richard Bellman, Introduction to Matrix Analysis: Second Edition.

Bellman was famous for dynamic programming.

For computations in linear algebra, consider

George E. Forsythe and Cleve B. Moler, Computer Solution of Linear Algebraic Systems

although now the Linpack materials might be a better starting point for numerical linear algebra. Numerical linear algebra is now a well developed specialized field, and the Linpack materials might be a good start on the best of the field. Such linear algebra is apparently the main yardstick in evaluating the highly parallel supercomputers.

After linear algebra go through

Rudin, Principles of Mathematical Analysis, Third Edition.

He does the Riemann integral very carefully, Fourier series, vector analysis via exterior algebra, and has the inverse and implicit function theorems (key to differential geometry, e.g., for relativity theory) as exercises.

All of this material is to get to the main goals of measure theory, the Lebesgue integral, Fourier theory, Hilbert space and Banach space as in, say, the first, real (not complex) half of

Rudin, Real and Complex Analysis

But for that I would start with

Royden, Real Analysis

sweetheart writing on that math.

Depending on the math department, those books might be enough to pass the Ph.D. qualifying exam in Analysis. It was for me: From those books I did the best in the class on that exam.

Moreover, from independent study of Halmos, Nering, Fleming, Forsythe, linearity in statistics, and some more, I totally blew away all the students in a challenging second (maybe intentionally flunk out), advanced course in linear algebra and, then, did the best in the class on the corresponding qualifying exam, that is, where that second course was my first formal course in linear algebra.

Lesson: Just self study of those books can give a really good background in linear algebra and its role in the rest of pure and applied math.

No joke, linear algebra, and the associated vector spaces, is one of the most important courses for more work in pure and applied math, engineering, and likely the future of computing.

Re: Ask HN: Recommend a maths book for a teenager?

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The classic text on analysis is Principles of Mathematical Analysis by Rudin. Its very difficult and leaves it to the reader to understand the terse proofs. It starts from the beignning, with no math background assumed about the reader. The terse proofs are written in such a way to force the reader to gain deep mathematical intuition. Some of the proofs are elegant and beautiful. I would absolutely recommend it. You…

> It starts from the beignning, with no math background assumed about the reader. It assumes that you have enough mathematical maturity to deal with proofs left to the reader.

IMO, Rudin is difficult not because of its proofs or lack of them (many proofs in discrete math can be no less brutal than anything in Rudin), rather that it's almost completely and utterly devoid of illuminating examples. For example, the definitions of "neighborhood", "limit point", "closed set", "open set", "bounded set", "perfect set", dense set" are crammed into a single definition 2.18 in chapter 2(Topology in Euclidean Spaces) in 3rd edition. The rest of the chapter is made up of theorems and corollaries. No related examples. On the other hand, Raffi Grinberg's analysis book meant to guide one through Rudin's book spends a whole chapter on elaborating on 2.18. And to be honest even that is barely adequate (totally inadequate, actually) if one wishes to become technically proficient in dealing with basic concepts in analysis with ease (that requires exposure to lots and lots of different examples). Although, probably, neither book has the latter as their goal.
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