Hong Kong: UK makes citizenship offer to residents

Post by FabHK » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 9:04 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #312

FabHK wrote: post #272

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> biggest advantage Plus the rule of law, I'd say. Well, historically.

That's only dubiously a net advantage, even historically, of HK for the PRC. It's instrumental in some of the business advantages, but it also contributes to it's big political liability for a national regime for which the law is a convenience, not a limitation.

Post by numakerg » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 9:14 PM UTC

mistermann wrote: post #287

numakerg wrote: post #254

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Then shouldn't the government be closing this loophole and taxing whatever vehicle they use to transfer wealth? I'd criticize an individual for evading taxes, but a "group" of people is just doing what people do. EDIT: If you want to talk about the "functional" value of immigrants, then you need to get to the root purpose and bring in whoever is having the most kids.

Legislation that has any kind of a racial (or perceived to be racial) aspect to it cannot really be discussed freely. Even though closing such loopholes may be perfectly legitimate, if exploitation of the loophole happens to correlate to a racially identifiable group, in the current age of social media based hyper propaganda it is a very dangerous political move for a career politician (or their party) to touch.

Post by iguy » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 9:20 PM UTC

vanekjar wrote: post #325

99_00 wrote: post #198

I live in Vancouver. The pattern for many Hong Kong immigrants is to have the mother and children live in Canada while the father works in HK.The family doesn't declare the foreign income in Canada. So they enjoy the benefits of a low tax HK income. And they get all the nice things that go with living in high tax Canada while not contributing to it -free healthcare, subsided University, safe communities, clean enviro…

> mother and children live in Canada while the father works in HK.The family doesn't declare the foreign income in Canada. Why would the father pay taxes in Canada when he lives and works in HK (or anywhere else) and (likely) is not a Canadian tax resident? It doesn't make any sense. After all they pay local taxes in Canada while spending (GST, PST, property tax etc.)

Post by divbzero » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 9:29 PM UTC

vanekjar wrote: post #325

99_00 wrote: post #198

I live in Vancouver. The pattern for many Hong Kong immigrants is to have the mother and children live in Canada while the father works in HK.The family doesn't declare the foreign income in Canada. So they enjoy the benefits of a low tax HK income. And they get all the nice things that go with living in high tax Canada while not contributing to it -free healthcare, subsided University, safe communities, clean enviro…

> mother and children live in Canada while the father works in HK.The family doesn't declare the foreign income in Canada. Why would the father pay taxes in Canada when he lives and works in HK (or anywhere else) and (likely) is not a Canadian tax resident? It doesn't make any sense. After all they pay local taxes in Canada while spending (GST, PST, property tax etc.)

Post by pldr1234 » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 9:40 PM UTC

throw51319 wrote: post #88

joaomacp wrote: post #22

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Pretty soon the law-abiding and obedient people will become aware that life outside of authoritarianism is better and safer, and they will either run away or revolt.

Life in China is fine right now. They are living about 50x better off than their parents. They are educated. The CCP is super clever and imbued a sort of nationalistic pride from birth. Instead of the US's more complicated dualistic individualism/patriotism combo, the Chinese people actually get some sort of pride for being a cog in the CCP machine. It's a completely different paradigm and obviously super dangerous b…