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Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by BLKNSLVR » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 4:54 AM UTC

klyrs wrote: post #179

downandout wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Missing context implies that their failure to provide it was an oversight. There was not even an attempt at providing context here, because doing so would be unpopular.

With cops wearing body cams, that evidence should be abundant. Its absence is telling. Collecting evidence is pretty much job #1 for the police. Without that, they can't establish guilt of the accused. When dozens of cops were involved in a beatdown and not a single one can produce a shred of evidence, we assume that the protesters were innocent.

> Collecting evidence is pretty much job #1 for the police.

Excellent point. If denial / lack of evidence is the SoP for any Police Department, what are they even doing? Defense Lawyers would barely have to work for their pay.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by ryandrake » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 6:45 AM UTC

throwvid19 wrote: post #185

The number of comments in here that ask for additional/richer data and are being flagged is supremely concerning. I understand that this is a hot issue with very polarized sides, but in what kinds of circumstances is having more data bad , except to intentionally support bias? Please understand that my question is only to understand why, in the context of accumulating data, is trying to obtain more/better data NOT a…

The constant request for more and more "context" is textbook Sealioning [1]. When faced with an overwhelming video evidence of misconduct, the only viable way to deny it is to endlessly seek out some kind of magical exculpatory "missing context". That's pretty the only way misconduct-deniers can sow doubt at this point. It's bad faith argument and disheartening to see here on HN.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 6:57 AM UTC

Trias11 wrote: post #35

Can we make a repo of resources listing black people killing, brutalizing and robbing other black people? Unless it's going to push GIT disk space limits of course. Why 10,000's of other black lives are less matter?

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Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by ivalm » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 8:13 AM UTC

stevehawk wrote: post #188

ogre_codes wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your narrative is correct, then the couple almost certainly would have been served better by documenting the violence and destruction themselves rather than coming off like armed idiots.

i'm not sure that a video camera offers the same line of defense as a firearm when you feel your life is in danger. after all, the incident was a straight up gun standoff with weapons on both sides.

If they feared for their life they wouldn't have acted so relaxed and would have been inside the house, not swinging around outside.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by kgraves » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 10:05 AM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #47

kgraves wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet, when I have provided recent evidence [0] in one of the comments, it gets gaslighted and flagged. Says it all really. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23694041

What do you think "trained marxist" means, in practice? Seriously, because Associate Professor in Community Organizing doesn't sound nearly as scary, does it?

Do you think capitalism is racist?

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by kgraves » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 10:37 AM UTC

XMPPwocky wrote: post #33

kgraves wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That proves that there is a hidden agenda within the black lives matter organisation.

What organization?

The Black Lives Matter Global Network

View my first comment for my evidence and stop your gaslighting.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by kgraves » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 10:51 AM UTC

obiye wrote: post #38

kgraves wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That proves that there is a hidden agenda within the black lives matter organisation.

If they openly state their desires, that is the opposite of being hidden.

The point is, people should know that they are supporting an organisation that has Marxist leaders.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by lki876 » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 1:25 PM UTC

throwvid19 wrote: post #185

The number of comments in here that ask for additional/richer data and are being flagged is supremely concerning. I understand that this is a hot issue with very polarized sides, but in what kinds of circumstances is having more data bad , except to intentionally support bias? Please understand that my question is only to understand why, in the context of accumulating data, is trying to obtain more/better data NOT a…

> ...in the context of accumulating data, is trying to obtain more/better data NOT a good thing?

Depends if ALL data is collected or ONLY data that supports certain viewpoints.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by lki876 » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 1:26 PM UTC

ryandrake wrote: post #212

throwvid19 wrote: post #185

The number of comments in here that ask for additional/richer data and are being flagged is supremely concerning. I understand that this is a hot issue with very polarized sides, but in what kinds of circumstances is having more data bad , except to intentionally support bias? Please understand that my question is only to understand why, in the context of accumulating data, is trying to obtain more/better data NOT a…

The constant request for more and more "context" is textbook Sealioning [1]. When faced with an overwhelming video evidence of misconduct, the only viable way to deny it is to endlessly seek out some kind of magical exculpatory "missing context". That's pretty the only way misconduct-deniers can sow doubt at this point. It's bad faith argument and disheartening to see here on HN. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal…

Unless it's true. Look at any court case for example. If you only heard one side you'd think that side was obviously right.

Re: Git Repo of Police Brutality During the 2020 George Floyd Protests

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Post by WealthVsSurvive » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 1:46 PM UTC

klyrs wrote: post #179

downandout wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Missing context implies that their failure to provide it was an oversight. There was not even an attempt at providing context here, because doing so would be unpopular.

With cops wearing body cams, that evidence should be abundant. Its absence is telling. Collecting evidence is pretty much job #1 for the police. Without that, they can't establish guilt of the accused. When dozens of cops were involved in a beatdown and not a single one can produce a shred of evidence, we assume that the protesters were innocent.

It's just called "spoliation of evidence." The evidence is contrary to police claims, so they are destroying it. It's fine. We the people have backups for them now. No hiding it now.