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Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Ever seen the Falun Gong sponsored Shen Yun production?

Why on earth is this downvoted? I saw Shen Yun here in Toronto, and also the recent Cirque one, and I've gotta say, Shen Fun really took the cake for me. Stunning.

Probably because Shen Yun is the propaganda arm of Falun Gong. That doesn't make the show any less cool, though.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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I might be like... extra retarded for saying this but... with 153k cases in Florida and 3.5k deaths (2.3%), is it really that bad? I can only imagine how many hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Florida citizens have it/have had it and had no symptoms and aren't getting tested (which would drive the death percentage down something fierce). I feel like I have a higher chance of dying driving down the street. Am…

I'm not sure what retardation has anything to do with this. If you mean you might be extra ignorant, that's something else. Consider speaking more clearly and abandoning the awkward slang. There's a common trend of mixing up the fatality percentage and the odds of dying to this. You seem to be falling into that confusion. A mortality rate of 2.3% doesnt mean you have a 2.3% chance of dying to it. If you're elderly an…

> That's why young healthy people such as myself (25, regular exercise, no preexisting conditions) need to be more worried about other people. It isn't about my health, it's about theirs.

This is not a factual statement. America is skewing younger with more complications than Europe.

While it is always a good idea to think about others, the young aren't as immune to this as they think they are.

Or, as I crudely put it to one youngster: You use condoms, right? Well, Covid statistically is more dangerous and more contagious than anything a condom protects against. Wear a mask, wash your hands, and keep your distance.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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A digital platform with some sort of interaction (clap, reactions, emojis, live chat with some sort of censorship) might adjust public spectacles to the new age.

It’s one thing to watch a video of a performance, and quite another to watch it live.

This. Watching a live performance can be way better than watching a video... but watching a live performance over Zoom is usually worse.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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The great depression in live performances is truly a global tragedy. If you think restaurants and barbershops have it bad, imagine theaters. For most of them it's basically impossible to do social distancing and remain financially solvent. People may be itching to go out to eat and get a haircut, but it will be a long time before people are going to pack in to an opera house. Couple that with the fact that audiences…

Escorts and strippers (sex workers) also can't perfect with social distancing in mind.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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It's basically Chinese circus with better production values.

Ever seen the Falun Gong sponsored Shen Yun production?

I watched a Shen Yun show. There was certainly some Falun Gong propaganda but otherwise the show was quite enjoyable.

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Live entertainment is the least "Essential Service" of all. Most of the professional performers I know are making masks to try and survive. Hey, anyone looking to hire an ex-circus performer? My digital cv is here https://circusscientist.com/cv Mostly Android apps but I can do Wordpress, data input, server management, creative coding...

What did you do in the circus? How'd you get into tech?

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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I might be like... extra retarded for saying this but... with 153k cases in Florida and 3.5k deaths (2.3%), is it really that bad? I can only imagine how many hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Florida citizens have it/have had it and had no symptoms and aren't getting tested (which would drive the death percentage down something fierce). I feel like I have a higher chance of dying driving down the street. Am…

> with 153k cases in Florida and 3.5k deaths (2.3%), is it really that bad? You don't even know if it's 3.5K deaths _due to_ COVID in the first place. The way US counts the deaths from this is "unique" in that if someone had COVID when they died, but they did not die _from_ COVID, they're still counted as a COVID death. That's why countries like Russia with much less formidable healthcare systems have "lower" fatalit…

In most countries, if you die having COVID, and you cant exclude COVID as being the cause, you are included in the COVID death count. In russia, if you die having COVID, but yoy also have any other sickness that could be the cause of death, you are not included in the COVID death count.

While the former overestimates, the latter underestimates. I dont have any reference to prove it, but my gut feeling tells me that the latter is probably even further away from the true number than the former. In any case, they are absolutely not comparable.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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The great depression in live performances is truly a global tragedy. If you think restaurants and barbershops have it bad, imagine theaters. For most of them it's basically impossible to do social distancing and remain financially solvent. People may be itching to go out to eat and get a haircut, but it will be a long time before people are going to pack in to an opera house. Couple that with the fact that audiences…

Escorts and strippers (sex workers) also can't perfect with social distancing in mind.

Serious question: will unregulated industries bother with public health orders if they are already ignoring the law to begin with?

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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The great depression in live performances is truly a global tragedy. If you think restaurants and barbershops have it bad, imagine theaters. For most of them it's basically impossible to do social distancing and remain financially solvent. People may be itching to go out to eat and get a haircut, but it will be a long time before people are going to pack in to an opera house. Couple that with the fact that audiences…

That and a lot of these venues had razor thin margins during the best of times; at half capacity they can’t survive. And that’s not even including the fact that discretionary spending will remain low until people feel financially secure, which might happen long after the pandemic is solved. Those who lost out on work will have credit holes to dig back out of once this is over.

Here in LA this is killing off some standup clubs. I’ve speculated that it’ll decimate a whole generation of up and coming comics; if you’re a club that’s struggling and needs to sell half the seats at a higher price per, you’re going to reach for tried and true artists and not anyone slightly risky.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Escorts and strippers (sex workers) also can't perfect with social distancing in mind.

Serious question: will unregulated industries bother with public health orders if they are already ignoring the law to begin with?

Strippers are usually regulated.
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