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Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Post by atmosx »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #12

The great depression in live performances is truly a global tragedy. If you think restaurants and barbershops have it bad, imagine theaters. For most of them it's basically impossible to do social distancing and remain financially solvent. People may be itching to go out to eat and get a haircut, but it will be a long time before people are going to pack in to an opera house. Couple that with the fact that audiences…

A digital platform with some sort of interaction (clap, reactions, emojis, live chat with some sort of censorship) might adjust public spectacles to the new age.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Post by elorant »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #24
runawaybottle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This holiday season is going to be a real test since we won’t have a vaccine by Novemberish. No ones going to fly out to holiday hotspots, or travel for Thanksgiving. Vaccine or bust basically.

I might be like... extra retarded for saying this but... with 153k cases in Florida and 3.5k deaths (2.3%), is it really that bad? I can only imagine how many hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Florida citizens have it/have had it and had no symptoms and aren't getting tested (which would drive the death percentage down something fierce). I feel like I have a higher chance of dying driving down the street. Am…

It is bad once hospitals become overflown with cases. We saw it in NY, in Italy, in Spain etc. It's not the fatality rate per se the problem, it's how fast all these people will get infected.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Post by tomjuggler »

Live entertainment is the least "Essential Service" of all. Most of the professional performers I know are making masks to try and survive.

Hey, anyone looking to hire an ex-circus performer? My digital cv is here https://circusscientist.com/cv

Mostly Android apps but I can do Wordpress, data input, server management, creative coding...

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Post by saagarjha »

atmosx wrote: post #31
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #12

The great depression in live performances is truly a global tragedy. If you think restaurants and barbershops have it bad, imagine theaters. For most of them it's basically impossible to do social distancing and remain financially solvent. People may be itching to go out to eat and get a haircut, but it will be a long time before people are going to pack in to an opera house. Couple that with the fact that audiences…

A digital platform with some sort of interaction (clap, reactions, emojis, live chat with some sort of censorship) might adjust public spectacles to the new age.

It’s one thing to watch a video of a performance, and quite another to watch it live.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Post by 1123581321 »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #24
runawaybottle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This holiday season is going to be a real test since we won’t have a vaccine by Novemberish. No ones going to fly out to holiday hotspots, or travel for Thanksgiving. Vaccine or bust basically.

I might be like... extra retarded for saying this but... with 153k cases in Florida and 3.5k deaths (2.3%), is it really that bad? I can only imagine how many hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Florida citizens have it/have had it and had no symptoms and aren't getting tested (which would drive the death percentage down something fierce). I feel like I have a higher chance of dying driving down the street. Am…

Your odds of dying from covid are higher. Auto deaths per passenger mile are 1-2 per 100 million miles, or about 1/20th (rough ballpark) the chance of dying from covid in the next couple years if you drive regularly and if you don’t already have health issues.

I think it’s reasonable to wonder that, though.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Post by warent »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #24
runawaybottle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This holiday season is going to be a real test since we won’t have a vaccine by Novemberish. No ones going to fly out to holiday hotspots, or travel for Thanksgiving. Vaccine or bust basically.

I might be like... extra retarded for saying this but... with 153k cases in Florida and 3.5k deaths (2.3%), is it really that bad? I can only imagine how many hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Florida citizens have it/have had it and had no symptoms and aren't getting tested (which would drive the death percentage down something fierce). I feel like I have a higher chance of dying driving down the street. Am…

I'm not sure what retardation has anything to do with this. If you mean you might be extra ignorant, that's something else. Consider speaking more clearly and abandoning the awkward slang.

There's a common trend of mixing up the fatality percentage and the odds of dying to this. You seem to be falling into that confusion. A mortality rate of 2.3% doesnt mean you have a 2.3% chance of dying to it. If you're elderly and/or have a preexisting respiratory condition, then you have a much higher likelihood of something going very wrong. The younger and healthier you are, the lower the likelihood is that your health will be severely impacted.

That's why young healthy people such as myself (25, regular exercise, no preexisting conditions) need to be more worried about other people. It isn't about my health, it's about theirs.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Post by atmosx »

m0zg wrote: post #30
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be like... extra retarded for saying this but... with 153k cases in Florida and 3.5k deaths (2.3%), is it really that bad? I can only imagine how many hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Florida citizens have it/have had it and had no symptoms and aren't getting tested (which would drive the death percentage down something fierce). I feel like I have a higher chance of dying driving down the street. Am…

> with 153k cases in Florida and 3.5k deaths (2.3%), is it really that bad? You don't even know if it's 3.5K deaths _due to_ COVID in the first place. The way US counts the deaths from this is "unique" in that if someone had COVID when they died, but they did not die _from_ COVID, they're still counted as a COVID death. That's why countries like Russia with much less formidable healthcare systems have "lower" fatalit…

Because for many cases it is not clear. The resources needed to understand are not there, they need to allocate them to save the living.

This situation is extremely complex and we simply don’t have the tools and resources to deal with it effectively.

Re: Cirque Du Soleil Files for Bankruptcy Protection

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Post by JohnBooty »

atmosx wrote: post #31
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #12

The great depression in live performances is truly a global tragedy. If you think restaurants and barbershops have it bad, imagine theaters. For most of them it's basically impossible to do social distancing and remain financially solvent. People may be itching to go out to eat and get a haircut, but it will be a long time before people are going to pack in to an opera house. Couple that with the fact that audiences…

A digital platform with some sort of interaction (clap, reactions, emojis, live chat with some sort of censorship) might adjust public spectacles to the new age.

It kind of has already -- Twitch, etc -- but whatever it evolves into online seems unlikely to support expensive and lavishly budgeted spectacles like Cirque.

I feel certain live performances and sports with physically-present audiences will return, as that experience seems to fill some kind of deep-seated human need. (One I certainly share)

But I increasingly fear that COVID-19 represents something like an asteroid-versus-dinosaurs event where, even though life continued, it looked drastically different. Perhaps it will be a good thing in the long run, but much will be lost.

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